Statagey for shoving late in tournaments with a short stack

[Igotouts23]

So I was playing in a really well run bar tournament last week and got into a really good discussion with a player late in the tournament about hands to shove late in a tournament with under a 15bb stack. He was saying he would rather shove K and Q rag over Ace rag. His thought process behind it was your less likely to get called by k10, qten, then you are A7+. If you shove A5, theres no way A9-AK with a decent stack is folding and you are just crushed. Would like to hear anyone elses thoughts on this?

[Detroitjunky]

I like that reasoning, but if the ace-rag is suited then thats a different story. Connectors are not a bad shove, especially double paint or suited, most ace-rags will fold to your shove and you may get called by a weaker king
now what is more important is your position when you shove - to me its better to be late or in the blinds - you dont want a lot of callers unless you have a monster - even then, aa is only a small favorite against 5 random hands - and if you can just steal the blinds from the button, cutoff or highjack without a fight then even better.

[jcolee2]

always better to shove than blind off and have to race as a short stack

[pokerponed]

Depends on timing. Even then there is no guarantee that youll win afterall this is poker.

[poophead]

mixed feelings about the shoving strategy, I dont do it unless i have a good hand

[panthers63]

playin short stack is more position and feel.. cards are a secondary thing.. from the button I might push 10-8 suited

[dk12]

ill shove nething on the button~!


BOSS!

[buonafide]

I'm kinda with him, but I like the smaller suited connector hands - K and Q rag are very, very easy to dominate. I think he just wanted you to start playing those hands so he could beat you

[bilbo63]

When I'm down to 5bb or less late in a tournament, I'll shove pocket 10's or higher and any AK or AQ and sometimes AJ AT if suited. Any suited connectors 8 or above will usually get shoved when I'm fighting for survival. Better to shove when you still have enough chips for other players to have to think about calling you.

[PimpGameNM]

So I was playing in a really well run bar tournament last week and got into a really good discussion with a player late in the tournament about hands to shove late in a tournament with under a 15bb stack. He was saying he would rather shove K and Q rag over Ace rag. His thought process behind it was your less likely to get called by k10, qten, then you are A7+. If you shove A5, theres no way A9-AK with a decent stack is folding and you are just crushed. Would like to hear anyone elses thoughts on this?

I think you lost us at "So I was playing in a really well run bar tournament"