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  1. #1
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    non traditional QQ play

    You are sitting at a .25/.50 blind cash game on stars. UTG raises to 1.50 (VP$P 30% PFR 20% 180 hands seen). He gets 3 callers including the button. You have QQ in the BB with about $45. The four callers have between $23-$61. You obviously dont want to fold or cold call.

    In this situation I have been occasionally just pushing all in. I dont put UTG on a strong hand because of his stats. I figure KK or AA would have reraised. I figure I may get calls from 99+ or AK on an all in push. If I raise to $4-$7 the only realistic call other than a creative AA play is AK, JJ or an loose set chaser. If button calls Im out of position with a difficult play if an A or K hits the flop. If it does not my villian will likely fold his AK and I win a realitively small pot. I play enough hands that if i get that AK call im happy because of the approx 56% to 44% advantage and loosing a few "coin flips" will not tilt me because of good BR management.

    What are your thoughts on occasionally using this play and why? Thanks.

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    If you can get AKo to ship it pre-flop, why not out play them when you have a better hand?
    All-In pre-flop = bingo = no skill

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    Lost with QQ so many Times Mate. Dont risk your Tourney with that hand.

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    All in before preflop is part of poker Assistanc3.
    It's call gambling.
    Well I like pocket queens but the odds is high that's A or K will hits on boards. So better start raising.
    If someone push you all in, it's become difficult to call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProBlackbird View Post
    All in before preflop is part of poker Assistanc3.
    It's call gambling.
    That is why the majority (85%+) of poker players are losing money players.

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    just like the first commment: all in preflop is bingo.

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    QQ got me today and won big for me tooo

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    I had a bad QQ play turned into a big win this afternoon at the casino.

    $2/$5
    Stack - $995

    BB with QQ

    ok so UG limps $5, UG+2 also limps, (this is what got me, first time I seen him limp all day).. so it folds all the way to me, even me SB folds. So I think and think and think, and ahh fuck it I'm going to check, (might be the first time I've done that)...

    Flop Q32

    I check, UG bets $22 (little more then pot) , UG+2 raises to $198 (all-in) I think about it for about 45 seconds and just call. UG raises all-in to $2000 or something stupid, I insta call obviously.. UG had 33, UG+2 had AA..

    HAHA WEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    that is my story with QQ for today =) then I got the hell out of there , but before I did I watched the guy that limped with AA there lose about 4k in 20 minutes..

    Oh! and the turn was a 4, so I automatically expected a 5 on the river , haha that's how much online poker has messed with my head.

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    QQ is dirty. I never push hard pre-flop if I snag it though.

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    Oline I expect the worse and 90 percnt of the time ,the other shoe falls lol
    " JUST KILLIN TIME,,, WAITING FOR TIME TO KILL ME,,,"

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