Sometimes it doesn't matter about patience or timed aggression, you just keep getting bad beat when you have decent cards. Then, you look up 20 or 30 minutes into the tourney and don't have but $400 or $500 in chips left. Well, this is when I used to have more patience, and I'd be cetermined to make a slow and carefully planned comeback. But guess what? Now I think that's donkey time, especially on Carbon Poker. Hee Haw !!