Normally I'd 3bet here, but with the action UTG and +1, I'm a little leery. An effective 3-bet is roughly to 2500-3k, which is close to a quarter of my stack. I just got moved to this table, so no reads. With stacks this deep, I don't think it's worth losing 25% of my stack to a 4-shove. Just curious on what others think.
Game started at: 2014/3/5 21:51:51
Game ID: 260585899 100/200 BIG10 - $12,500 GTD, Table 17 (Hold'em)
Seat 8 is the button
Seat 1: BPark16 (13179).
Seat 2: xTRANQUILTYx (12773).
Seat 3: Zuugmind (15979).
Seat 4: vchilala (17247).
Seat 5: 7w1stDn3viL (7053).
Seat 6: mprouix74 (4797).
Seat 7: muskratman (8552).
Seat 8: gswfan (7075).
Seat 9: MURD3R (4715).
Player MURD3R ante (20)
Player BPark16 ante (20)
Player xTRANQUILTYx ante (20)
Player Zuugmind ante (20)
Player vchilala ante (20)
Player 7w1stDn3viL ante (20)
Player mprouix74 ante (20)
Player muskratman ante (20)
Player gswfan ante (20)
Player MURD3R has small blind (100)
Player BPark16 has big blind (200)
Player MURD3R received a card.
Player MURD3R received a card.
Player BPark16 received card: [Kc]
Player BPark16 received card: [Ad]
Player xTRANQUILTYx raises (432)
Player Zuugmind calls (432)
Player vchilala folds
Player 7w1stDn3viL folds
Player mprouix74 calls (432)
Player muskratman folds
Player gswfan folds
Player MURD3R calls (332)
Player BPark16 ?
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03-05-2014, 09:58 PM #1
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Is there any point 3-betting OOP?
If you PM me about stakes (or randomly bubble chat me, which I consider the same thing), and I haven't done business with you before, or talked with you before, you will NEVER get a stake from me.
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03-06-2014, 04:05 AM #2
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Without any reads on the players its indeed hard to decide, what about calling for 200 in a pot of about 2000 ?
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03-06-2014, 06:39 AM #3I'm not slurring my words. I'm talking in cursive. I believe the ladies find it to be quite elegant.
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03-06-2014, 12:26 PM #4
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This is a great 3 bet spot....I'd say 3 bet to 2,200 and get it in over a shove. When you 3 bet here its gonna look like a squeeze play so people are going to assume you hand range is going to be wider. I mean without information I think its better to 3 bet also just because we aren't going to be going for just cashing we are looking to find plus ev spots, and 3 betting here is plus ev for sure
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03-06-2014, 12:27 PM #5
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I don't really think so much about his hand just the situation....he could 3 bet J10o here too which I'd like as well or something.
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03-06-2014, 12:30 PM #6
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i have fold ak-a10 many times with more than one player all in pre with no problem, now hu, ak i roll with pre, if i miss the flop i have no problem with a laydown
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03-06-2014, 12:31 PM #7
I like the 3 bet idea, ESP with 2 short stax calling..and will give you an idea of the initial better's play
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03-06-2014, 12:32 PM #8
i would consider AJ a better hand than any pair up to tens almost all the time a pair in the hole gets beat.thats like 75% of the time a pair in the hole gets beat.with someone holding AJ,AQ,AK.At least thats what ive been seeing.for about 10 years now.
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03-06-2014, 01:36 PM #9
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small pairs in the hole are tricky that is why i like to see flop first
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03-06-2014, 01:37 PM #10
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of course, if you got one guy going all in before flop with ak you stand a very good chance with call