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TheHaversham Taking notes & classifying... 11-15-2013, 01:50 PM
chrisdione I am kind of disgusted that... 11-15-2013, 02:28 PM
TheHaversham Carbon still has the note... 11-15-2013, 02:44 PM
JohnnyDeepStacks Im only here because the... 11-15-2013, 02:29 PM
TheHaversham I dunno who you are, or why... 11-15-2013, 02:50 PM
TheHaversham Sorry...accidentally posted... 11-15-2013, 02:38 PM
potfan42o harver thats awesome well... 11-15-2013, 02:42 PM
JohnnyDeepStacks JohnnyDeepStacks and... 11-15-2013, 02:52 PM
lorenz0wns this is a great guide, kudos... 11-15-2013, 05:40 PM
rghy2 This is a great strategy! How... 11-15-2013, 06:22 PM
TheHaversham Well, the re-entry concept... 11-15-2013, 08:09 PM
rghy2 The re-entry thing on Merge +... 11-16-2013, 05:59 PM
azreal1 its a cash cow so i dont see... 11-16-2013, 06:01 PM
steveo2003 wish I put all that thought... 11-15-2013, 09:24 PM
MRINSIDIOUS That's a pretty interesting... 11-16-2013, 11:40 PM
TGxHUSSLE you have it all mapped out I... 11-17-2013, 01:03 AM
Samweis3 a really good way to have... 11-17-2013, 05:51 AM
samitheman99 well thumbs up 4 the... 11-17-2013, 09:00 AM
TheHaversham Also, I should note that I... 11-17-2013, 10:48 PM
TheHaversham As I said, this is the system... 11-17-2013, 10:34 PM
rghy2 So I'm at the final table of... 11-23-2013, 03:10 AM
TheHaversham In a $1 game, yes...you're... 11-24-2013, 05:34 AM
rghy2 I knew it was going to be... 11-24-2013, 05:23 PM
jaydowdle pretty in depth man.. nice..... 11-23-2013, 11:23 AM
AZPLAYS11 I use the notes a lot when I... 11-24-2013, 11:57 AM
helps I'm also using notes all the... 11-24-2013, 01:45 PM
daman74 thanks for the info but you... 11-24-2013, 05:52 PM
rghy2 notes are working fine for me... 11-24-2013, 06:12 PM
TheHaversham Well...the ROI I generally... 11-24-2013, 06:46 PM
rghy2 You give a lot of good... 11-24-2013, 08:00 PM
TheHaversham Just to follow up on this:... 11-24-2013, 10:40 PM
JLynn171 only notes i take is mark... 11-24-2013, 06:13 PM
lorenz0wns such an excellent thread bro.... 11-25-2013, 04:50 AM
TheHaversham Ahh, that's a great question.... 11-25-2013, 10:03 AM
lorenz0wns Awesome man! And also whats... 11-25-2013, 03:28 PM
TheHaversham I don't really have a system... 11-26-2013, 10:16 AM
rghy2 I know most of these tells,... 11-26-2013, 09:30 PM
rghy2 Any advice for using a HUD? 11-25-2013, 02:44 PM
Samweis3 @TheHaversham really well... 11-25-2013, 05:06 PM
chadherczeg Very good strategy. I use a... 11-25-2013, 05:29 PM
squid300 TBH, and I haven't read all... 11-25-2013, 06:07 PM
TheHaversham As much as I ramble, this... 11-26-2013, 01:02 AM
lorenz0wns why not do both? it's a... 11-26-2013, 10:10 PM
potfan42o so focus on the 2-3 from... 11-26-2013, 10:37 AM
TheHaversham Whoops...yes, you are... 11-26-2013, 03:52 PM
dk12 nice thread.... red = pro... 11-26-2013, 10:43 AM
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JohnnyDeepStacks I grade the donks in the... 11-26-2013, 09:33 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by lorenz0wns View Post
    Awesome man! And also whats the best way of keeping up with everyone's stack sizes and what are those obvious physical tells?
    I don't really have a system for keeping up with everyone's stack sizes...I think it just comes with time. I dunno how much casino experience you have, but after a while you get a feel for what a rack of chips looks like, and how much each rack is worth, etc. You get used to stacking them in equal piles of $100, or $50, or $500, or whatever, depending on demonination. Tourney chips are different than cash game chips, but when you have a firm grasp on your casino's chip-color system, it just gets easier.

    As for physical tells...whole books have been written on this (and I've read most, lol), but here are some basics that seem to be reliable in the games I play:
    First, I always take note of how a person presents himself. Is he dressed impeccably (pressed shirt & slacks, lots of shiny jewelry, expensive haircut, etc)? If he is, notice how he stacks his chips. They will almost always be very orderly, in perfectly straight stacks, sometimes he'll even line up the stripes on the chips. Players like this will generally be tighter, and generally will play more conservatively. Ppl dress how they play, ppl stack chips how they play. A guy who looks a little disheveled, who just piles his chips in a messy fashion, is going to play that way, in general. Poker players are inherently narcissistic and egotistical. They love to share how they played a hand, how they would have had the nuts, how much they won last week, etc. Pay attention to all of this outward display that a player gives you. It is free info, most are completely oblivious to the fact they are doing it, and it gives real insight into their thought processes. But, as with all tells, remember it's only a generalization. There will be exceptions, and true sharks will purposefully give false tells.

    Always watch players as the hand is dealt. Some will immediately look at their cards - this is a big flaw of online players. They're not used to waiting until their turn to see what they have. Watch the player's subconscious reaction. Do they shift their weight? Do they sit up straighter? Most players eyes, after seeing a hand they like, will move directly to their chips. Good players know this, but it's still almost always a tell because they can't help it. So when you see a the button look at his cards before UTG has acted, and then he glances at his chips, it usually means he likes his hand. If he then watches the action more closely than usual, or pretends to not even be noticing or caring, that just solidifies it. People are aware that tells exist, so they think if they look away, or try real hard NOT to concentrate on the action or hand, or try to slip into the background, but then when it's their turn to act they come in for a big raise, you can be sure you've picked up on their tell.

    Always look left. You want to see the stacks behind you, and some old-timers and noobs can't help but start to get their bets ready before it's their turn. You will learn soon enough who is doing this and who is faking this. Some people have their limp in their hand before anyone even acts, some will be counting out their raise prematurely, etc.

    Don't watch the flop, watch your opponents. If they stare long and hard at a flop, they generally have a draw or missed. If they quickly glance at it then look away, they likely hit the flop. If they suddenly shift weight in their chair or twist around to look across the room or in some way act like they didn't even notice the flop (after you saw them watch it), it hit them over the head. Again, they don't want to give off a tell that they hit their set or whatever, so they are making an effort to look like they didn't see it at all.

    Do they sigh, or shrug before putting chips in the pot? This is usually a trap. The ol' "oh I suppose I'll call" play, when they're holding AA. Or do they make strong, forceful bets, almost shouting their raise? This usually means a bluff. Especially if they act strong while they bet, then stare you down. If they really had a hand, most players are so worried about giving off a tell, that they'll try NOT to be noticed. If they're making an effort to be noticed, it's almost always a bluff. Do they suddenly stop chewing their gum, or suddenly start to? Or shaking their leg?

    Acting strong usually means weak, acting weak usually means strong. They are all generalizations, but once you back up suspicions by seeing their showdowns or whatnot, you will be able to pick out which players have reliable tells. The fun part is once you recognize it, and maybe you'll notice another player recognizing it as well, you can start to give off your own fake tells. I love to stare down an opponent when I've put a big river raise out with the nuts. If they know it's a sign of weakness, I'll even add like a subtle gulp in my throat. If they stare back, I might eventually avert my eyes, or try some nervous laughter. I remember one occasion where a guy actually called himself all-in with 22 on a dangerous board because I made him think I was bluffing by over-acting strong.

    Most important, tho, is to watch all hands, watch all showdowns. You want to confirm tells if you can, but once you have, they are usually very reliable.
    Last edited by TheHaversham; 11-26-2013 at 10:20 AM.

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