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[abenz419]

well that all depends on how much you trust your read... If you put him on AJ (top pair with top with top kicker) and the turn comes ace or jack then you should be able to fold that without feeling you were bluffed off the best hand. Like we both agreed, he is probably playing his hand vs. trying to put you on a hand, so if you shove your almost sure to get a call, and then if the scenario of an ace or jack comes your unable to get away from the hand and that leaves you with only 1k left. Yeah you would have to get unlucky for him to hit 1 of 5 outs there, but my thought process here is just that it doesn't matter if you flat call or re-raise any amount, your not gonna get him off of his hand. So, yeah while you might not be extracting maximum value, you are minimizing the damage that can be done... make sense? Now lets say you feel as though he is a solid player capable of folding if he feels he is beat and you make the same read and put him on AJ, then shoving there isn't as risky simply because there is the chance that you can bet him off his hand vs. the noob that you know is going to insta-call no matter what.

[tta91690]

Now lets say you feel as though he is a solid player capable of folding if he feels he is beat and you make the same read and put him on AJ, then shoving there isn't as risky simply because there is the chance that you can bet him off his hand vs. the noob that you know is going to insta-call no matter what.

Not shoving against a good player is MORE risky; there are turn cards that allow him to bluff me off my hand. A good player might fold TP to a shove (costing me some extra chips). And if you know a bad player is going to call with TP, you SHOULD go all in.

[abenz419]

Not shoving against a good player is MORE risky; there are turn cards that allow him to bluff me off my hand. A good player might fold TP to a shove (costing me some extra chips). And if you know a bad player is going to call with TP, you SHOULD go all in.

that's exactly what I said... I said shoving there is NOT as risky against a good player than it is a bad player, but either one has risk unless your holding the absolute nuts

[tta91690]

Side note: I have really enjoyed this discussion, feel free to post any of your interesting hands or even hypothetical situations because I would really like to make what I detailed in my OP happen. My goal is to establish something similar to 2p2 on this site and we can only do that by making this thread big enough that the mods take notice.