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MovingFlea REAL hand examples, insight... 10-16-2013, 07:47 AM
FrankWhite I wouldn't think about this... 10-16-2013, 09:24 AM
AZPLAYS11 When you are short stacked... 10-16-2013, 11:23 AM
jasonv12 In a PO game (or low stakes)... 10-16-2013, 11:41 AM
MovingFlea I don't always play QT, but... 10-16-2013, 11:46 AM
MovingFlea Yea your right Jason, my... 10-16-2013, 11:49 AM
jasonv12 I know it looks like a pretty... 10-16-2013, 11:57 AM
TacTownGOON253 really???? Q 10 off is a... 10-16-2013, 01:22 PM
jasonv12 I said it looks like a pretty... 10-16-2013, 01:25 PM
TheHaversham Well, I see many problems... 10-18-2013, 03:24 PM
TheHaversham Hand 2: I don't see folding... 10-18-2013, 03:30 PM
MovingFlea nah trust me ppl dont fold... 10-18-2013, 03:37 PM
TheHaversham Well, if you have it all... 10-18-2013, 03:52 PM
TacTownGOON253 first of wtf are you thinking... 10-16-2013, 01:20 PM
MovingFlea I raised that much because... 10-16-2013, 01:54 PM
jasonv12 Good analysis, you're clearly... 10-16-2013, 02:00 PM
MovingFlea Not that hand. My river call... 10-16-2013, 02:06 PM
jasonv12 We all make mistakes. Just... 10-16-2013, 02:31 PM
TheHaversham Yes, I agree. You played like... 10-18-2013, 03:36 PM
TacTownGOON253 q 10 is just a recipe for... 10-16-2013, 01:42 PM
jasonv12 Stop being so blah. He posted... 10-16-2013, 01:53 PM
TacTownGOON253 Sorry Flea.was not trying to... 10-16-2013, 02:45 PM
MovingFlea sorry? i dont deserve... 10-16-2013, 02:48 PM
WILD You should've just checked... 10-16-2013, 05:27 PM
MovingFlea Almost everyone LOSES. See... 10-16-2013, 06:50 PM
TheHaversham Which you induced. Consider... 10-18-2013, 03:42 PM
MovingFlea He's just luckky as shit I... 10-18-2013, 03:48 PM
TheHaversham Well, if you consider that if... 10-18-2013, 03:54 PM
TheHaversham And I'm sorry to... 10-18-2013, 03:59 PM
chrisdione playing that hand was the... 10-18-2013, 12:19 AM
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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHaversham View Post
    Hand 2: I don't see folding any A in that spot, tbh, even if you know your opponent to be tight. The fact that he is loose is actually an argument for folding, except you are so short.

    Just for fun, to see an interesting dynamic, the next time you have 15BBs, re-shove into ANY raiser with 30-40 BBs. You will likely be surprised at the weakness of their holdings as well as the success rate of this move.

    Counter-intuitive to some, at the effective stacks in Hand 2, both yours and his plays are completely justifiable, as the cards become irrelevant.
    nah trust me ppl dont fold here in these games. i would need a hand to do this with.
    Your hole cards are the least important factor in Texas hold'em.
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    Well, if you have it all figured out, why do you ask for advice?

    How about YOU trust ME? It's a freeroll, what's to lose?

    Rarely are you going to get a better hand than yours to fold, but there are enough freerollers hoping for a min-cash that you'll see this play succeed. What you are not getting, I suspect, is the math of the situation. If they are only calling your 15 BB shove (1/2 to 1/3 their stack) with the top 25% of hands (which is generous), the math is clear that you will win from behind often enough to overcome the times you are behind.

    I've only been around PO a little over a month or so, so I understand if you don't think I know what I'm talking about. My results, however, speak for themselves, methinks. One sign of a player who's not overcome that "hump," is to be too results-oriented. Make the right decisions, let the results come. Don't 2nd-guess a good decision just because an idiot got lucky.

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