pot limit omaha

[ad87ag]

I love pot limit omaha

Yes I love it tooooo

[donny111]

you fold there. you have no hand and you are only drawing to broadway with 2 tens (since you are already holding a 10 in your hand) plus the 10 of spades could be tainted. plus 4 8s again with the possibility that the 8 of spades is tainted - leaving you with 4 outs or only abt 10% chance you will hit a clean straight.

btw - my understanding of a wrap in omaha is that 3 different numeric cards will complete a straight for you but i only see 2 in you example 10 and 8.

ya a wrap around str8 is 3 or more cards to make a str8. and i have more ways to hit broadway or the nut str8 for that matter. i have AK109 with QJ53 board. i can hit an ACE (THEN K10 WILL PLAY) KING(THEN A10 WILL PLAY) 10 (THEN AK WILL PLAY) 9(THEN K10 WILL PLAY) 8(THEN 910 WILL PLAY) . these are all the nut str8 draws i have with the hand, the problem and moreover the question is whether to call to try and hit given the fact that the opponent could have spades thus reducing a great number of my str8 outs.

[joefine]

ya a wrap around str8 is 3 or more cards to make a str8. and i have more ways to hit broadway or the nut str8 for that matter. i have AK109 with QJ53 board. i can hit an ACE (THEN K10 WILL PLAY) KING(THEN A10 WILL PLAY) 10 (THEN AK WILL PLAY) 9(THEN K10 WILL PLAY) 8(THEN 910 WILL PLAY) . these are all the nut str8 draws i have with the hand, the problem and moreover the question is whether to call to try and hit given the fact that the opponent could have spades thus reducing a great number of my str8 outs.

you are of course correct sir - my mistake! that's why i suck at omaha. so that adds 3 aces to you out minus the ace of space so total clean out is up to 6 - still only about 15% equity in the pot. clear fold.

[Derickp55]

im not the best at omaha but it looks to me like that call after flop was a bad play if you were going with the hand you should have applied pressure right then and made him have the tough decision!

[donny111]

you are of course correct sir - my mistake! that's why i suck at omaha. so that adds 3 aces to you out minus the ace of space so total clean out is up to 6 - still only about 15% equity in the pot. clear fold.

i do agree ithink the fold is the correct play but your still only counting "BROADWAY" for my outs. i dont need to hit broadway to win, all the str8 draws i previously mentioned are the NUT STR8S. i dont know why you are fixated on only counting broadway as a winning hand? my outs: AK1098 DIAMONDS+AK8 CLUBS+1098 HEARTS=11 OUTS

[donny111]

im not the best at omaha but it looks to me like that call after flop was a bad play if you were going with the hand you should have applied pressure right then and made him have the tough decision!

i agree for the most part, but u try shoving in $400+ real dollars with a draw lol! Remember this is a cash game not a tourney!

[CheapskatePoker]

I have just enough luck with pot limit omaha to be dangerous.

[CheapskatePoker]

But not enough luck to overcome skill.

[joefine]

i do agree ithink the fold is the correct play but your still only counting "BROADWAY" for my outs. i dont need to hit broadway to win, all the str8 draws i previously mentioned are the NUT STR8S. i dont know why you are fixated on only counting broadway as a winning hand? my outs: AK1098 DIAMONDS+AK8 CLUBS+1098 HEARTS=11 OUTS

easy there guy... again you are right. obv. i'm not a omaha guru but no need to yell. even with 11 outs that still only gives you 27% equity. So you're not getting pot-odds to call and your implied odds are not great given if a A, K or 10 does come is the guy willing to pay you off with an obvious st8 on board? The best case scenario is a 9 or 8 and you could well stack the guy. But, I guess I would ask myself - What happens when the river bricks or a spade completing one of your st8 comes in - what are you going to do having invested so much in the pot already?

[bmeelneg]

Its about an equity neutral play by either calling or folding its really close.

True that 11 nut out once you're getting priced out ... those 5 other outs you cannot calculate as zero outs because that potential flush is coming BACKDOOR. You can cut those 5 outs in half giving you 2.5 more. He jammed before there was a flush draw, he jammed when there was a flush draw. You cannot assume he has a flush draw by his actions.

So with 13.5 outs (11 + 2.5) you are right in the middle of the equity zone. Fold if you are tight ... call if you are loose (its not all that loose).