The same answer in any situation - it depends.
In a tournament, JJ vs a likely calling range of KQ, AK AQ - only has 60% equity - barely better than a coin flip.
Your equity vs a range of QQ - AA is only 10% - and with those premium hands included - your total equity VS his calling range is only about 32%! So unless it's a multiway pot where your being given 2-1 pot odds for your shove - it's a losing play in the longrun to shove your jacks. When your called your most often dominated or a marginal favorite!
I rarely 3bet my jacks- preferring to call. They are a good hand, and having to fold them preflop to a 4bet is a disaster - yet alone a light 4bet with 9s-10s.
Risking my tournament standing even as a 60 - 40 favorite is stupid IMO - there are way better spots to get your money in.
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Thread: Pocket jjs all in or fold?
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08-16-2012, 01:00 PM #11
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08-16-2012, 01:12 PM #12
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I just saw a guy shove 83 off suit in a tournament like this in the SB trying to steal the big blind around the bubble. I don't see why everyone here sees that as a good fold, jacks are an instant call there. Like someone else said, AJ, A10, and small pairs are all a possibility and there's no way you're behind.
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08-16-2012, 01:14 PM #13
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Good time to shove.
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08-16-2012, 02:30 PM #14
Yeah Im thinking that I should have called ...my gut put him on a week ace I see this so much where people will shove sb trying to steal bb with a weak ace.I definatly feel I made a bad fold and I probably would have won that tournament...I just like to learn from my mistakes and I think if he did have a monster hand aa,qq,kk,ak,aq he most likely wouldnt have pushed all in because you want a call in that situation hu.More like a massage bet is what he most likely would have done...thanks for the feedback.
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08-16-2012, 02:33 PM #15
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that happens sometimes throw these types of cards and more if it is in final table
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08-16-2012, 04:23 PM #16
I believe that JJ maybe the toughest hand to play. I think it was a good fold on your part. He also had a premium hand.
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08-16-2012, 05:04 PM #17
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i think u gotta call with jacks there, if your just trying to move up the money ladder then its a fold otherwise its a pretty standard call i thnk, especially given the fact the blinds were 400 800. Moreover, you say that its likely a race situation, which it could be, but imo you could also be way ahead. Given you have no information about this player, i think its safe to say that an avg player in that spot could jam 77-1010, A8-AJ, or even less than these hands.
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08-16-2012, 05:24 PM #18
I think you better shove here. I think that most of the time you will be way ahead.
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08-16-2012, 05:31 PM #19
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I hate JJ seems i always get beat even when ahead goin in
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08-16-2012, 05:32 PM #20
According to position and chip stack would make my decision what to do with pocket jacks. last night i was in a tourney had 900 chips with blinds at 200 and 400 and i shoved all with pocket jacks. Rivered the trip jacks.