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    Quote Originally Posted by lorenz0wns View Post
    idk, if you wanna have sick scores like shaun deeb you're going to want to take flips for your tourney life to accumulate a big stack although you have to take 'em in the right time like in the middle of a tourney, obv not in the beginning because if u win a flip in the beginning you're still nowhere near the FT.

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    ^that's shaun deebs acc on FTP. as u can see all his major bustouts happen 65% of the time during the middle of a tourney. the reason being he takes those flips in which if he wins it sets up his deep runs to the FT, a crushing 18% which is almost double the average player
    Thank you for posting Deeb's stats, but that is not an accurate analysis of how or why he is so successful. Here is a quote from the man himself:
    "I mean, we always talk about the +EV of a hand," the 25-year-old New Yorker said in online vernacular. "Say someone opens [raises], I three[-bet, or reraise], they four-bet [re-reraise]. It would often be right to five-bet, but because it's the main event, if they have [a superior hand] 50-50, you can't make that commitment. Why commit to 50-50 when I can commit one-tenth of my stack to hands I have a better chance of winning?"

    While it's true that when he's 50-tabling, he's far more likely to push the edges with a 52/48 edge, that is more a factor of using multi-tabling to reduce variance. But when he's playing one tourney, and for whatever reason that has exceptional importance - like when he is in the main event, or when a freeroller has $0 and is playing for $1 - then taking 50/50's when there will be countless 80/20's in your future is just bad poker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lorenz0wns View Post
    idk, if you wanna have sick scores like shaun deeb you're going to want to take flips for your tourney life to accumulate a big stack although you have to take 'em in the right time like in the middle of a tourney, obv not in the beginning because if u win a flip in the beginning you're still nowhere near the FT.

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    ^that's shaun deebs acc on FTP. as u can see all his major bustouts happen 65% of the time during the middle of a tourney. the reason being he takes those flips in which if he wins it sets up his deep runs to the FT, a crushing 18% which is almost double the average player
    Coinflips in poker are inevitable, but there are times when you will take one and times when they are to be avoided. This is really a mistake many amateurs make because they simply think in terms of "well, I got my chips in and I wasn't behind." What the pro's understand is controlling the situations in which they are willing to flip. The reason Deeb takes flips in the mid-game is generally because he understands his opponents well enough and knows that they SHOULD be folding if he puts them to that question. And, since many of his opponents now understand that, they will occasionally gamble with him, knowing that their particular skill-sets give them more leverage the longer they are in the tournament. Deeb is not a short-stack player - I've played with him on many occasions, and he is simply one of those who can afford the risk and max out the reward, so he starts taking the risks that you and I might wait until 10-20bbs to risk when he is down to 50-65bbs. In the tournies he plays, that will bust you half the time, but the other half it will give you 100+ bbs. I guarantee you that Shaun would be the first to tell you that he's not looking to flip a coin for 100+ bbs in the middle of a tourney. That's not to say he won't, but it's not generally by his own choice (i.e, he might 5-bet QQ if he's certain his opponent has AK, but if the opponent doesn't let go, Deeb isn't going to give up his aggro image).

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    i feel that i play better in cash games using the super hyper aggro strategy lol. idk though it could just be a bunch of luck.

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    I see this fairly often. I think sometimes it's just boredom on their part, but also they are playing on the general nit quality of most players. It works until they come up against someone who recognizes that style and sets a trap for them

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    I usually run into them having the big hand when I have dome at my table playing like that. So either they're a genius or I have terrible timing/luck.

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    i dont believe in playing every hand. rather coming in once or twice with big raise..

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    If you have such player in your table, you are lucky! All you need to do is polarize hand to take advantage of aggression in every hand played ...

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    i saw a guy play aggro cards i saw a raise once real cool stories brah

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    are you talking about me?, because im won the game yerterday and in some hands i was playing very agressive, but not all the time, just when i have potential hands. So, for me is just strategy, but i understand your feeling bro.

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    I played opposite waited for a good 60% starting hand that didnt come until my relative stack size was to small to see a flop .The big were
    raising were had to go all in or fold,Tounament poker you have know how fast blinds go up in order to know how loose or tight to play.

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