OverPlaying AK

[abwil2]

Just remember 22>AK.
I do not consider it an all in PF hand unless if you are short ( I know others will disagree, I see some all in with any suited ace), I would raise to isolate and see the flop, but am prepared to lay it down if I miss and my C bet gets called/raised..

I know statistically Ak vrs 22 is a coin flip but it really isnt as close as odds make it appear. Ak is ranked 8 hands better then 22, you can look at it anyways u want but ak is 8 hands better...with 22 thru to upper middle pairs u have to hit to win. Theres no way to call anything after a higher card hits the flop(unless ur live and have a helluva read) and odds are higher cards will hit the flop. I know some will disagree but.... look at a hand rank guide.

[b112895]

I know statistically Ak vrs 22 is a coin flip but it really isnt as close as odds make it appear. Ak is ranked 8 hands better then 22, you can look at it anyways u want but ak is 8 hands better...with 22 thru to upper middle pairs u have to hit to win. Theres no way to call anything after a higher card hits the flop(unless ur live and have a helluva read) and odds are higher cards will hit the flop. I know some will disagree but.... look at a hand rank guide.

dude your wrong

[bmeelneg]

dude your wrong

please share why you think he is wrong ...

I think he is pretty correct on this one. 22 vs ak ... the 2's are about 52/48 favorite if its heads up and it gets the river (key word is IF). Hard to take 22 all the way to the river if you get any heat. Say a flop comes 5 J Q rainbow ... someone leads out with a decent sized bet ... would you rather call that bet with 22 or AK?

[sharkfood]

AK's the shit, and deuces are shit. I don't care about the 52/48. You have a 4% chance of hitting a set on flop, and if not you are going to fold to any bet b4u right?

[b112895]

please share why you think he is wrong ...

I think he is pretty correct on this one. 22 vs ak ... the 2's are about 52/48 favorite if its heads up and it gets the river (key word is IF). Hard to take 22 all the way to the river if you get any heat. Say a flop comes 5 J Q rainbow ... someone leads out with a decent sized bet ... would you rather call that bet with 22 or AK?

he said that the ak is a favorite which it isnt, its about exactly 50 50
not even 52 48 either

[bmeelneg]

he said that the ak is a favorite which it isnt, its about exactly 50 50
not even 52 48 either

hmmmm no and no

reread the first sentence on what he said .... "I know statistically Ak vs 22 is a coin flip..." <-more or less right 22 is a slight fav but its commonly referred to as a flip. He didn't say it was a fav he said it was a flip ... there is a difference.

"AK is ranked 8 hands better then 22..." again more or less right (how many hands higher it is varies from source to source). It also varies how many people are seeing the flop.



Ak is ranked higher then 22 by starting hand requirements even though it is technically behind IF its heads up. Just two of the reasons why its ranked higher ...

One) if you wiff the flop with either hand the AK can often continue where the 22 cannot. See the example I already gave you.

Two) 22 runs the risk of getting counterfeited. For example on a final board where its something like 4488Q the 22 hand is absolutely worthless, the ak hand may very well be the best hand.

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the odds change slightly if they share suites or not, but it is closer to 52/48 then it is 50/50