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  1. #31
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    H#2 with a raise and 3 in a pot obv you got over pair with no flush draws on the flop you just gotta be worried about str8's and 2 pair, however you got a nut gut st8 draw too looking back they both were on draws, high risk high reward hand thats gambling nh
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    Quote Originally Posted by s810car View Post
    Idk if you're really an O8 player, i think you said last night you weren't, but if ya are i'll catch ya on later and explain my thought process on this if interested, I'm not putting it here because I want people to put their own thought not incorporate part of mine thinking then i'd like their response more and they could get staked from that. I will say partly due to read i made this decision, and in this scenario i will play this way every single time UNLESS my read of table totally goes against it
    You do realize you are agreeing with me for the most part? and no, I never said I wasn't an O8 player. In fact, I do great at mixed games, I love HORSE, Ive won (1st) in B2B consecutive days in the same HORSE MTT before. But regardless, Like I said, any unsuited trips is more often than not a fold in O8, unless you have a read. But, you should know by now, I am generally a conservative player. So unless the conditions are right it's a fold. Obviously in this scenario you felt they were, I may have done the same, may not have, since each choice is situational and I wasn't there, I can't say.

    p.s. Of the 16,432 different starting hands (not including relative equivalents) A- A- A- K- ranks 16124th in value, so its basically the 83os of O8, but even 83os is playable in certain cases.
    Last edited by MichMan; 02-09-2014 at 11:57 AM.
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    PokerOwned Demi-God s810car's Avatar
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    Yea i get its face value there were several factors regarding why i would play that hand, and the only donk/fishy thing i will concede to is yea, calling that pfr kinda ignored the hand value vs pot odds jussst a lil bit all good apprec the input neways
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    if holly hobby was the one with 10 and briang had the 52 in this spot then yes a fold may be in order after the flop- but that is not the case here - (unless briang is as much of a freak - but looks more like just giving up with a short stack maybe after a bad beat or something)
    holly seems like the 'push' player - one who will bet and bet every street until you fold -no matter what the board is- i love playing these people because they never quit until broke - this person you must call down often with any medium holdings

    now on the call preflop - i like it too - mostly because with the aces you can 'fake' the nut low or the nut flush (with the 3 suits you hold) if you get the chance - especially the low because odds are no one has the last ace
    another thing about 08 is that a low only hits like less than 1/3 the time (forget the actual number but i am close) so aces with an ak is a strong starting hand - especially against maniacs!

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    here is a classic example of calling a bully with not great cards - though its a tournament it still applies - pokerthongs has been bully all tourney - and this is not the only time i picked him off -

    Game started at: 2014/2/9 0:58:29
    Game ID: 251834595 15/30 $3 Omaha Hi/Lo Regular 9-Max, Table 1 (Omaha HiLow)
    Seat 8 is the button
    Seat 2: Nutzkracka (1762).
    Seat 3: mjvigil (1035).
    Seat 4: sc0urge (1435).
    Seat 5: detroitjunkie (2207).
    Seat 6: YasielPuig (1520).
    Seat 8: radar24 (1445).
    Seat 9: pokerthongs (4094).
    Player pokerthongs has small blind (15)
    Player Nutzkracka has big blind (30)
    Player pokerthongs received a card.
    Player pokerthongs received a card.
    Player pokerthongs received a card.
    Player pokerthongs received a card.
    Player Nutzkracka received a card.
    Player Nutzkracka received a card.
    Player Nutzkracka received a card.
    Player Nutzkracka received a card.
    Player mjvigil received a card.
    Player mjvigil received a card.
    Player mjvigil received a card.
    Player mjvigil received a card.
    Player sc0urge received a card.
    Player sc0urge received a card.
    Player sc0urge received a card.
    Player sc0urge received a card.
    Player detroitjunkie received card: [6c]
    Player detroitjunkie received card: [8c]
    Player detroitjunkie received card: [Kh]
    Player detroitjunkie received card: [10h]
    Player YasielPuig received a card.
    Player YasielPuig received a card.
    Player YasielPuig received a card.
    Player YasielPuig received a card.
    Player radar24 received a card.
    Player radar24 received a card.
    Player radar24 received a card.
    Player radar24 received a card.
    Player mjvigil folds
    Player sc0urge folds
    Player detroitjunkie calls (30)
    Player YasielPuig folds
    Player radar24 folds
    Player pokerthongs calls (15)
    Player Nutzkracka checks
    *** FLOP ***: [8d Ac 10d]
    Player pokerthongs bets (90)
    Player Nutzkracka calls (90)
    Player detroitjunkie calls (90)
    *** TURN ***: [8d Ac 10d] [5c]
    Player pokerthongs checks
    Player Nutzkracka checks
    Player detroitjunkie checks
    *** RIVER ***: [8d Ac 10d 5c] [2d]
    Player pokerthongs bets (240)
    Player Nutzkracka folds
    Player detroitjunkie calls (240)
    ------ Summary ------
    Pot: 840
    Board: [8d Ac 10d 5c 2d]
    Player Nutzkracka does not show cards.Bets: 120. Collects: 0. Loses: 120.
    Player mjvigil does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
    Player sc0urge does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
    *Player detroitjunkie shows: Two pairs. 10s and 8s [6c 8c Kh 10h] Low hand (A A 2 5 6 8 ).Bets: 360. Collects: 840. Wins: 480.
    Player YasielPuig does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
    Player radar24 does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
    Player pokerthongs shows: One pair of 8s [7c 7h 8h 9h]. Bets: 360. Collects: 0. Loses: 360.
    Game ended at: 2014/2/9 0:59:17


    my preflop call I love because again the low is not that common so regular omaha starting hands do play great in o8 most of the time

    and to support my beliefs 0 i won this tournament and i beat pokerthongs heads up in like less than 10 hands - boy did he bitch the whole way about my play against him - thought i was crazy - little did he know i was genius

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    and yes against any other player at the table i fold on the river - and if the bully had actually raised preflop i may have folded on the river as well - his mistake

    on another note -if he bets pot on the turn- I raise pot if the other person folds- and then i watch the bully fold in disgust - claim i was a maniac - and i laugh

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    Hand #3

    Critique both my move and my opponents, this was at 2 from bubble (18 paid 20 left in tourney)

    Game started at: 2014/2/9 19:23:0
    Game ID: 252215060 1500/3000 $300 GTD TURBO Deep Stack, Table 5 (Hold'em)
    Seat 4 is the button
    Seat 1: s810car (10830).
    Seat 3: kinghog111 (6200).
    Seat 4: LordTywinn (28220).
    Seat 5: Pokemon Master (15853).
    Seat 6: krushurdreams (21475).
    Seat 8: philg41 (31060).
    Seat 9: luckiedar (31255).
    Player Pokemon Master ante (300)
    Player krushurdreams ante (300)
    Player philg41 ante (300)
    Player luckiedar ante (300)
    Player s810car ante (300)
    Player kinghog111 ante (300)
    Player LordTywinn ante (300)
    Player Pokemon Master has small blind (1500)
    Player krushurdreams has big blind (3000)
    Player Pokemon Master received a card.
    Player Pokemon Master received a card.
    Player krushurdreams received a card.
    Player krushurdreams received a card.
    Player philg41 received a card.
    Player philg41 received a card.
    Player luckiedar received a card.
    Player luckiedar received a card.
    Player s810car received card: [Ah]
    Player s810car received card: [Js]
    Player kinghog111 received a card.
    Player kinghog111 received a card.
    Player LordTywinn received a card.
    Player LordTywinn received a card.
    Player philg41 folds
    Player luckiedar folds
    Player s810car allin (10530)
    Player kinghog111 folds
    Player LordTywinn folds
    Player Pokemon Master folds
    Player krushurdreams calls (7530)
    *** FLOP ***: [9s 5d 2d]
    *** TURN ***: [9s 5d 2d] [2s]
    *** RIVER ***: [9s 5d 2d 2s] [9h]
    ------ Summary ------
    Pot: 24660. Rake 0
    Board: [9s 5d 2d 2s 9h]
    *Player s810car shows: Two pairs. 9s and 2s (kicker A) [Ah Js]. Bets: 10830. Collects: 24660. Wins: 13830.
    Player kinghog111 does not show cards.Bets: 300. Collects: 0. Loses: 300.
    Player LordTywinn does not show cards.Bets: 300. Collects: 0. Loses: 300.
    Player Pokemon Master does not show cards.Bets: 1800. Collects: 0. Loses: 1800.
    Player krushurdreams shows: Two pairs. 9s and 2s [8h 3d]. Bets: 10830. Collects: 0. Loses: 10830.
    Player philg41 does not show cards.Bets: 300. Collects: 0. Loses: 300.
    Player luckiedar does not show cards.Bets: 300. Collects: 0. Loses: 300.
    Game ended at: 2014/2/9 19:23:56
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    Standard all the way around.
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    s810car you playing some late night omaha again....?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by pikeboy412 View Post
    s810car you playing some late night omaha again....?????
    if i am im getting sleep first, i was up for too long as obv shown by my beat again and again and again...lol
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