Laying down KK?

[tval35]

Yesterday I was playing ring game on carbon and I was doing well, up about 3 buy-ins when i got KK in the cutoff. I made it standard 3x raise and button insta-shove all in. I knew the donk had aces and was trying to get me to call with kings or queens or AK. Anyway i called, he had aces and i lost. Would anyone actually lay down KK there ignoring the chance he has AK, QQ or is completely bluffing?

[wagon596]

Pre-flop I don't think I'm ever going to be able to lay down Kings.

[z0d14c]

now laying down queens would be easy if soeone pushed me because most likely they have kings aces or slick

[Drywallman3]

Pre-flop I don't think I'm ever going to be able to lay down Kings.

same for me, pre-flop I don't think I could lay K-K down. I have many times after the flop when I saw and A and knew the other guy had an A, could have been A-2 but my hand was beat.

[z0d14c]

same here i could never lay down kings unless there were more then 5 people all in before me

[wagon596]

same here i could never lay down kings unless there were more then 5 people all in before me

I agee with this, I can't remember the % , but even pocket aces really start to lose their value with 3 or more other players being in the hand.

[Rcktwrangler]

yes QQ is a much different story ... KK is a hard laydown preflop . although it can be done , with many all ins in front of course.

[Tiarra]

Not with just one reraiser, unless you have a really really (and I mean REALLY) good read on the guy, you aint laying down Kings preflop.

[NO9NOJNOKNOH2]

@rcktwrangler ur absuolutly correct.....100%

[bmeelneg]

Not with just one reraiser, unless you have a really really (and I mean REALLY) good read on the guy, you aint laying down Kings preflop.

^^ This
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Laying down KK in -EV in the situation tral35 discribed. Different villains ranges vary of course. Hard to put someone on only AA here.