I flopped a flush with full stack in a limped pot five way. I have 56hh on Q73hh. Is anyone ever folding here? We both started the hand ~100bbs $50.00 stacks at .25/.50. Villian is a competent reg, he does bet in position and shows some signs of aggression.
Starting Game #75065175-34
dirttrack88 is the Dealer
Shuffling Cards
Ra350z posted Small Blind $0.25
mistersmartypants posted Big Blind $0.50
You Were Dealt (6h,5h)
dtemple114 folds
Holono calls $0.50
Sup4Donk calls $0.50
jrancor folds
bigdog136 calls $0.50
dirttrack88 folds
Ra350z calls $0.50
mistersmartypants checks
Dealing Flop (3h,Qh,7h)
Ra350z checks
mistersmartypants checks
koreatown has been seated
Holono bets $1.25
Sup4Donk calls $1.25
bigdog136 raised to $4.50
Ra350z folds
mistersmartypants calls $4.50
koreatown leaves
Holono folds
Sup4Donk is All In ($50.25)
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01-18-2014, 10:02 PM #1
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Folding a Flopped Flush with little information
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01-18-2014, 10:04 PM #2
ima donkey who makes -EV decision after -EV decision, so i cant help this thread... i will post though
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01-18-2014, 10:09 PM #3
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I agree with the logic that if I'm not willing to get it in with a flopped flush then why the fuck am I playing in the first place. To me his range is sets, made flushes, and a few combo draws mostly Ahx. I am leaning towards made flushes due to the fact he called and then back jammed over a raise and call. Seems like he is now trying to extract max value/force Ah holder to a tough decision. I know my hand is under-repped and most of my opponents will not put me on a flush. I also think that some people will actually view my hand as not wanting more hearts meaning I have some value hand like top top, over pair, or I have a baby flush. I think fold pre is the bottom line but I think as played the fold on flop is correct. Unfortunately.
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01-18-2014, 10:11 PM #4
he limped AA or KK w a heart pre
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01-18-2014, 10:17 PM #5
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Really feel like most of his range is made flushes that don't have the ace of hearts and sets.
50% made flush
25% set
10% combo draw mostly containing ace of hearts, or a queen (example AhQ, KhQ)
6% naked Ah
2% over pair with no heart
1% AQo
1% something else
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01-18-2014, 10:59 PM #6
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i agree with your analysis...i mean im not good enough to provide advice. BUT, i think many good players would make the laydown here. I think the set percentage maybe higher. It depends what you think his image of you is. Given he's a reg at this level, idk if hed be playing with anything lower than a the combo draw.
I think you save yourself money here though. If he deserves the respect you give him, then you prolly made a good play. I know it feels bad, bc you hit the best flop you could of gotten :/ and still had to fold.
i would of called bc, you got the best flop w ur hand, but then again idk what percentage of the time he puts you on the hand u have. he prolly put u on a set or combo draw, and pushed with made flush or a combo draw himself.
idk, this is complicated. not really sure. sorry, if this doenst help. i just figured id give some thought.
i think you shouldnt worry though. if you are a winning player, then it might have been worth calling to see what the reg has. You would have eventually made back ur losses if u lose and gotten a ton of good info.
I think you just gotta play your game though. All the pros make big laydowns like this though, when the get played back at, so its not necessarily a bad play. You might have just made a genius laydown. I think its good to move on though, DONT LET THIS TILT YOU.
based on your logic, the fold seemed to be correct.
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01-18-2014, 11:01 PM #7
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i think u shoudl post this on two plus two or decues cracked forum. There shoudl be some good advice there from more experienced players.
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01-18-2014, 11:04 PM #8
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Yes the set percentage could definitely be higher. The trickiest part of the hand is that he goes from flatting 1.25 to jamming $50. I think a crucial part of the hand is the SB putting in $4.50 making his check call look pretty damn strong. Either nut draw or made flush. Felt gross to fold. Glad I wasn't last to act. I might of fold showed. Which would be terrible. Ew.
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01-18-2014, 11:05 PM #9
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I think its good to move on though, DONT LET THIS TILT YOU.
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01-18-2014, 11:55 PM #10
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