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  1. #31
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    cheater, cheater, never wins...or do they always win? Never can tell these days...oh well...either way...long as you never know you were being cheated then maybe you weren't...or maybe you were...ALL IN!!!

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    wait, does this have anything to do with the casino over in Europe not paying him his winnings??? I find it hard to be Ivey would try to cheat. The mans a honest gambler and he doesnt have to cheat to win hes just the f'n man. Ivey Ivey Ivey!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by plyr1210 View Post
    wait, does this have anything to do with the casino over in Europe not paying him his winnings??? I find it hard to be Ivey would try to cheat. The mans a honest gambler and he doesnt have to cheat to win hes just the f'n man. Ivey Ivey Ivey!!!!!!
    Wow!! Some people just don't get it. Of course Phil would and did "cheat" the casino. Its not like he paid off the dealer or something, he found an edge and exploited it , it is the casino's job to change the cards and spot a player edge.

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    casinos need tighter regulation. they should not be a law unto themselves.

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    Phil Ivey rocks... One day, you will meet me

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    Quote Originally Posted by cardinal6902 View Post
    Phil Ivey rocks... One day, you will meet me
    fuck him

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    Quote Originally Posted by cardinal6902 View Post
    Phil Ivey rocks... One day, you will meet me
    phiil ivey is my favorite player i love the way he shows no emotion at the table like a rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZPLAYS11 View Post
    He runs in streaks like a lot of players do. It's all in the cards. If you don't get them it's hard to win unless you bluff a lot.
    even if you bluff alot you still have to catch good hands to make your bluffs look beleaveable

  9. #39
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    I agree with the law. It is up to the casino to make sure their cards are properly cut and unmarked. Players should use every advantage they can get to beat the house and if the house wants to make it easier on intelligent and observant people then that's their own fault. Ivey did not mark the cards, he just observed the difference between them and used it to his advantage. To me, it's the same as having a perfect read on a player. It's not cheating if the opponent gives you the advantage, it's just bad for the opponent. Casinos get away with robbing people daily because they keep the advantage, but when the advantage sways to the player, they classify it as "cheating". Well in that case, they are lifetime cheaters.

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    Phil phil what are you doing ..

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