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    Like they cheat/rig the cards for you to lose. How about donk?

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    ya man.. if there are winning players out there.. then its not rigged

    bad beats happen.. like poofy said .. brm is key and mental is key... I crush sngs but there always hits a stretch when I doubt my game cause of a wicked break even stretch.. all players do

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydowdle View Post
    ya man.. if there are winning players out there.. then its not rigged

    bad beats happen.. like poofy said .. brm is key and mental is key... I crush sngs but there always hits a stretch when I doubt my game cause of a wicked break even stretch.. all players do
    That just means that their not rigging it so much that you can't beat it. It doesn't mean their not rigging it at all, or in a limited fashion. If nobody was winning, that would be too obvious, people would find out. OF COURSE, they would take steps to not get caught.

    Why wouldn't they rig it? They obviously don't care about the laws, they are already involved in money laundering, why stop there? Because of ethics? LOL. Rich people don't give a damn.

    If I was the owner of an online card room, you can bet your ass I would let the donks suck out more so they stay at my site and I can keep generating the rake. Or put action flops in the late stages of tournaments so people go rebuy.

    No actually I wouldn't. Because I'm an idiot that likes to make my money fairly.But you people don't understand business at all...

    My point isn't that these sites are "Bad". Its their cardroom and their not forcing anyone to play there. My point is not that these sites can't be beat, they can, but there's a handicap for donks and new players.
    My point is that, its a little rigged to make profit. Key word, being little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MovingFlea View Post
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    That just means that their not rigging it so much that you can't beat it. It doesn't mean their not rigging it at all, or in a limited fashion. If nobody was winning, that would be too obvious, people would find out. OF COURSE, they would take steps to not get caught.

    Why wouldn't they rig it? They obviously don't care about the laws, they are already involved in money laundering, why stop there? Because of ethics? LOL. Rich people don't give a damn.

    If I was the owner of an online card room, you can bet your ass I would let the donks suck out more so they stay at my site and I can keep generating the rake. Or put action flops in the late stages of tournaments so people go rebuy.

    No actually I wouldn't. Because I'm an idiot that likes to make my money fairly.But you people don't understand business at all...

    My point isn't that these sites are "Bad". Its their cardroom and their not forcing anyone to play there. My point isn't that these sites can't be beat, they can, but there's a handicap for donks.
    My point is that, its a little rigged to make profit.
    I dont think this falls under money laundering and IMO I think that the owners of these sights have just fond a loop hole on the laws so we can still play online. I mean ACR advertises their site on ESPN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trudizzle View Post
    I dont think this falls under money laundering and IMO I think that the owners of these sights have just fond a loop hole on the laws so we can still play online. I mean ACR advertises their site on ESPN.
    Remember black friday? All of the owners of Pokerstars, Full Tilt, Ceresus Network, are STILL being sought after our government because they were engaged in such actions. They are currently indicted, what more proof do you need? There's no "loophole".

    and because their advertise that means their legit? People...People....Please. So naive. I'm done here. Do your own research and believe what you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MovingFlea View Post
    Remember black friday? All of the owners of Pokerstars, Full Tilt, Ceresus Network, are STILL being sought after our government because they were engaged in such actions. They are currently indicted, what more proof do you need? There's no "loophole".

    and because their advertise that means their legit? People...People....Please. So naive. I'm done here. Do your own research and believe what you want.
    OK...if there isnt any sort of loop hole than please explain to me how these online sights have managed to last this long after black friday?

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    none of the sites are rigged, butttt i believe all sites have superusers

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    Quote Originally Posted by leexg23 View Post
    none of the sites are rigged, butttt i believe all sites have superusers
    This is unavoidable. How are the sites supposed to keep all of their employees in line, and make sure they don't take advantage of their position. There's no way. If I owned a card room, I probably couldn't find a way to be certain everyone was trustworthy.

    It's not the sites fault I think, that they can't trust their employees. Where are you going to find an entire army of good people, that would never be involved in scamming. One rotten apple spoils the bunch.
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    Thats with any business. Its impossible to maintain 100% perfection and security 100% of the time. IMPOSSIBLE. It happens , but they all get caught. Its not a question of if but when. It happens. Nothing you can do. Since people been cheating in back room poker games and old west shooting people for cheating. Its impossible to catch em all , all the time on time. But they all eventually get caught. Just cause you have a the best home security system money can buy doesn't mean someone can't get in. It happens.

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    im not saying they are rigged obviously cause4 I like to play them. But I would never think It cant or wouldn't happen. as there has been shady things happen just not rigging the software as far as we know. some will be honest and im sure some wont

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