for some reason it seems to me like people have lost respect for the game, or maybe its just lack of knowledge of the game? either way i think it takes the fun out of playing poker when people shove or call a raise with some off the wall hands. It makes it hard to add skill to the game, i have heard and i do agree that any two cards can win, i think thats were the luck is all at! most times when you do apply skill the other person wont fold their hand and most times they hit, taking away the fun, and robbing you of any skillful play.. i have seen some people play very loose and it works well for them but thats not me, i have no luck playing loose. so really all you can do is accept it, cuz not like you can get it back.. i think im there, i can accept the donking, we all do it, so why complain..skill will win more times than luck!!