Petition to kill off preflop stalling

[lespaul]

At the 2006 WSOP, while being besieged by autograph hounds and playing for a $12,000,000 prize, Daniel Negreanu found time during a ten-minute break to summarise bubble play: ‘The bubble is the point in a tournament that basically separates the men from the boys. When players are just shy of reaching the money we find out who is there to win the tournament and who is just there to survive. The top players get really aggressive, while the less experienced guys clam up and play tight. The good players take advantage of the tight players as the bubble approaches.’

[denchik0712]

it makes very nervous! so I agree with the author threads

[Swittie]

it makes very nervous! So i agree with the author threads

stalling rules!!!!!!

[rivdee]

So it looks like we got some intelligent answers (and some dumb ones), but some of you didn't understand the point of this: It's not that we are trying to ban stalling or don't understand it (because in some situations it makes sense). It's when you do it every hand from hand 1 of a tournament, specifically on BCP where we don't get a lot of players (it wouldn't work on the Carbon tourneys)

[rivdee]

Overall it appears that the players who are actually good at this game want to eliminate stalling, and those who are not talented are in favor of it

[rivdee]

So here is a proposal that was talked about yesterday, and if you have an opinion (or just want your 5 points, leeches), tell me what you think:

Maybe a site could limit the timebank to X seconds if it is your first action in the hand and you have no equity (so if you're not a blind and it's before the ante period), but then resort to a normal timebank once you've acted. It would solve the staller problem as much as it can be solved without shortening the time to take away from players who actual want to think about the hand.

[eichroll]

It's got nothing to do with good vs bad its just different strats. If you think stalling makes you a bad player Tom Dwan must suck.

[rivdee]

It's got nothing to do with good vs bad its just different strats. If you think stalling makes you a bad player Tom Dwan must suck.

You completely, but unsurprisingly, missed the point. Stalling in freerolls is different than stalling in a big cash game. I'd like to think I wouldn't have to explain that.

BTW, it's stats, not strats. Use a spell-checker.

[azreal1]

BTW, it's stats, not strats. Use a spell-checker.

strats as in strategies not stats as in statistics....

[eichroll]

In a regular f/r i agree but 50% of the players on here are decent enough to pick up on a timing tell so in the PO f/r i disagree with u. Even though I don't stall much anymore. BTW strats is short for strategies not statistics goofy.