Played with a lot of these guys....and for those wanting to play with Hellmuth, puhhhh, you would find it a wasted venture. He is just a plain asshole who has made a ton of money and does not appreciate where it came from. It is no fun to be at a table with him, he is a spoiled POS, especially when he loses. IMO you would be way better off with a host of other great players, who are also funny or at least interesting to play with. DN is one of the best, as he is always jovial just like TV. Hellmuth is just a whinning P Boy whenever I have encountered him.