i however do not buy poofys play on betting automatically every turn or re-raising a raiser - if the flop comes 10,j,q hearts(or something coordinated and suited) and you have two black aces - and two people are betting like mad - you are toast and should fold - far too often people live (and a lot of times die) by aces after the flop - as Kenny says "you got to know when to fold them"