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MovingFlea sucked out again 10-25-2013, 02:31 PM
Swittie yeah..merge can be fun ......... 10-25-2013, 02:38 PM
mommahud WOW! These look like some of... 10-25-2013, 02:41 PM
Swittie thats why i wish so much Zab... 10-25-2013, 02:42 PM
AcesUp1439 I know the feeling. I just... 10-25-2013, 02:42 PM
MovingFlea Volume 2 (more to come, trust... 10-25-2013, 07:57 PM
lorenz0wns 1st hand: he showed down 63o?... 10-27-2013, 03:24 AM
houstonmark I guess that's just the way... 10-27-2013, 07:59 PM
TGxHUSSLE Is it just me or does this... 10-28-2013, 07:30 PM
zayzoo it happens. plus k3 is a... 10-25-2013, 10:59 PM
MovingFlea I've been grinding a lot, but... 10-26-2013, 09:14 PM
lorenz0wns o nvm i read op wrong. gonna... 10-27-2013, 02:26 AM
azreal1 pretty much this, ive seen... 10-27-2013, 04:44 AM
lorenz0wns if u like seeing... 10-27-2013, 04:53 AM
MovingFlea It's still rubbish. The whole... 10-27-2013, 10:00 PM
tracyrickrobby happens to the best of us!!... 10-27-2013, 11:36 AM
TomKat1958 Yeah... when donkey poker... 10-27-2013, 04:14 PM
scooster34 You just gotta roll the bad... 10-27-2013, 06:58 PM
bierpast I made a bad call here, I had... 10-28-2013, 10:55 AM
JohnnyDeepStacks It happens sometimes. We all... 10-28-2013, 10:56 AM
MovingFlea Volume 3 ... 10-28-2013, 04:33 PM
lilturkgirl and another misplayed hand 10-28-2013, 04:35 PM
MovingFlea I was doing pot control, in... 10-28-2013, 04:38 PM
lilturkgirl if you put in a small raise... 10-28-2013, 04:39 PM
TheHaversham rofl 10-29-2013, 03:53 PM
lorenz0wns you have to open this mate,... 10-28-2013, 07:42 PM
MovingFlea I know how to play ABC poker... 10-28-2013, 08:44 PM
lorenz0wns this is incorrect because... 10-29-2013, 12:12 AM
mommahud this is bs here:... 10-28-2013, 04:36 PM
MovingFlea That is bullshit mommahud. I... 10-28-2013, 04:40 PM
N1fty I enjoy these quite a bit,... 10-28-2013, 09:00 PM
MovingFlea Lol, Lorenzo, it doesn't... 10-29-2013, 12:26 AM
lorenz0wns blinds go up in 10 secs and... 10-29-2013, 05:17 AM
MadAdo Yes, I agree with MovingFlea,... 10-29-2013, 02:23 AM
PimpGameNM Merge is on that funny... 10-29-2013, 03:22 AM
ludomayer1 Made the call along with the... 10-29-2013, 10:39 AM
MovingFlea I am not going to read all of... 10-29-2013, 12:16 PM
lorenz0wns You need to learn how to lay... 10-29-2013, 02:59 PM
TheHaversham +1 mirrion. Lorenzo...let... 10-29-2013, 03:40 PM
MovingFlea Yea well... 10-29-2013, 03:57 PM
lorenz0wns my mtt results has nothing to... 10-29-2013, 04:39 PM
MovingFlea lorenowns, Ship it to someone... 10-29-2013, 12:47 PM
lilturkgirl Flea you have a serious ego... 10-29-2013, 01:25 PM
MovingFlea Your just saying that because... 10-29-2013, 01:48 PM
wizz1234 umm, default hands, i mean... 10-29-2013, 03:07 PM
lorenz0wns for what it's worth most of... 10-29-2013, 03:14 PM
GodzAmongKingz I just want to ask what was... 10-29-2013, 03:46 PM
MovingFlea Look it up yourself at Texas... 10-29-2013, 03:59 PM
mikey4141 Sometimes the desperate all... 10-29-2013, 04:43 PM
MovingFlea sorry lorenzowns and... 10-29-2013, 10:18 PM
lorenz0wns yeah that was out of line i... 10-30-2013, 12:30 AM
MovingFlea More suckouts. Highlight of... 11-01-2013, 02:10 AM
MiamiMadePunk You're not running bad, its... 11-01-2013, 06:23 AM
TheHaversham Just throwin this out there,... 11-02-2013, 02:01 AM
MovingFlea Now that I think about it... 11-02-2013, 02:15 AM
TheHaversham I feel your pain. A good... 11-02-2013, 03:05 PM
TheHaversham Whoops...lost my train of... 11-02-2013, 03:13 PM
TheHaversham And of course, if your table... 11-02-2013, 03:20 PM
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icables Story of my Po Freeroll life 11-02-2013, 03:27 PM
  1. #1
    I Gots You Dominated MovingFlea's Avatar
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    I know how to play ABC poker LorenzOwns. I've playing a rigid, "correct" strategy long enough that I can do it without much thought. There's nothing wrong with deviating from the standard as long as you know why you are doing it. There are so many variables in this game that you simply can't say, well you need to do this, or that, exactly the same way every time.

    The reasoning behind my play was, stack size. With less than 10BB (shortstack) shoving is pretty much the best play because you need to increase fold equity as much as possible. With more than 20BB you can afford to take risks and be aggressive, especially pre flop, because you have a stack large enough to make plays and run over bad players.

    The most AWKWARD, stack size in tournament poker is, the 15BB range, without antes. At this point, making a raise pre flop and taking it down pre doesn't net you a large pot relative to stack size, and if your continuation bet bluff gets called, you lose half of your stack and are left with, an absolutely crippled stack that is liable to be called liberally by any big stack. This situation, although not the most likely outcome, happens often enough that I wanted to avoid it if possible.

    Note that I wouldn't have made the same play out of position. I would have raised it from middle position to get the ace rags to fold.
    Your hole cards are the least important factor in Texas hold'em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MovingFlea View Post
    I know how to play ABC poker LorenzOwns. I've playing a rigid, "correct" strategy long enough that I can do it without much thought. There's nothing wrong with deviating from the standard as long as you know why you are doing it. There are so many variables in this game that you simply can't say, well you need to do this, or that, exactly the same way every time.

    The reasoning behind my play was, stack size. With less than 10BB (shortstack) shoving is pretty much the best play because you need to increase fold equity as much as possible. With more than 20BB you can afford to take risks and be aggressive, especially pre flop, because you have a stack large enough to make plays and run over bad players.

    The most AWKWARD, stack size in tournament poker is, the 15BB range, without antes. At this point, making a raise pre flop and taking it down pre doesn't net you a large pot relative to stack size, and if your continuation bet bluff gets called, you lose half of your stack and are left with, an absolutely crippled stack that is liable to be called liberally by any big stack. This situation, although not the most likely outcome, happens often enough that I wanted to avoid it if possible.

    Note that I wouldn't have made the same play out of position. I would have raised it from middle position to get the ace rags to fold.
    this is incorrect because since it's a turbo tourney u WANT to GII with KQo. literally 8 min lvls and u'll go from a 15bb stack to 10bb stack. idk what your reads were vs the SB/BB but if they are tight it's an easy open/cbet postflop and if they are sticky players that like to see the flop it's an easy shove.

    limping is the 3rd worst play to do pre. yeah u only pick up blinds/no antes but it's a turbo tourney and u needa focus on the most optimal play that is likely to double u up and limping is not it for sure. btw flatting utg with k3s LP is not "abc" poker

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