IF we dont even know what happpend,, how can we put in our opinion here? not all of us were here, when incident occured tho. I t seems that zab has hinted at the fact that Michman did something, more then p rawney?? b ut he didnt really say what it was, so i dont know how we can vote then.... so since , no real info here,, I say give them both another chance then.....