Extending the Speedway Promotion

[NateVest]

Call it the "Poker Owned Derby" or "Poker Owned Derby Challenge":

1. The person buying the "car" or "stable" will own the horses and can trade, sell, or let any horse go on a "waiver wire"

2. The horses can either "pay" or be "hired/staked" for their position and may be negotiable with the stable owner

3. This could go daily, weekly, monthly, or even an annual or quarterly progressive prize pool

4. Implement LLB's between owners, horses, and even members that are not in a stable at that time (horse betting in a sense)

5. "Trainers" could be considered a Team Leader if they are the most profitable for the stable and you earn that title weekly

**I have more ideas if this is the track you are on, let me know if the feedback is helpful and I will keep adding ideas to the thread. Thanks for the hard work you put into this, I hope it pays off in the long run. I see a lot of points being used through this promotion especially if some sort of sports betting on the horses and/or stables and have a LLB between the stables since you already have this LLB player to player.

I think this would be even more of a hit if it was in a league format similar to the league formats some of us play now. Everyone could pay a certain amount of points to participate while attracting new members that only play in forums with league play.

[NateVest]

I think this would be even more of a hit if it was in a league format similar to the league formats some of us play now. Everyone could pay a certain amount of points to participate while attracting new members that only play in forums with league play.

You could integrate owners, jockeys, and horses,

1. Owners - members that have the roll to operate the stable that does not play much

2. Jockeys - the team leaders or leaders in points (point average per game) that play few games but always cash

3. Horses - the members that can play every game and have nothing to contribute but play games and earn points

Jockeys and Horses could be sold/bought by another owner by PO points or p2p poker room $ this way you can take a rake from all transactions for the progressive prize pools and keep a % for the next prize pool like your other promotions.

[Zab]

I think this would be even more of a hit if it was in a league format similar to the league formats some of us play now. Everyone could pay a certain amount of points to participate while attracting new members that only play in forums with league play.

Keep expanding on this, I am going to sum up all the ideas to date

[wagon596]

I'm so confused,,, So I'll just have to set back and see how this all pans out. "Confused" is a natural state of mind for me.

[NateVest]

Keep expanding on this, I am going to sum up all the ideas to date

In certain league formats, you are able to create and choose your own team and everyone on the site participates but must purchase a ticket for each event or game. You name it what you want, you hire and fire as you like if you are the team owner. This way you are not losing out on any points a player will spend to participate in these promotions. There are also team leaders that also make decisions in who to scout, who to put on the waiver wire, etc. Some league sites have separate leagues, so you really have the option to have one big league or multiple small leagues. You could decide for yourself, take a vote, or do both because I think both formats have been proven effective already, and with the member base you already have, this place would blow up. I know multiple players that would join in a heartbeat and I think every other member that has been here for a year or longer could attest to this. I think you could run the Derby and a Poker Owned League that has the same format mentioned above and you buy your tickets similar to how you purchase them on the site. I know I would be hustling my ass off earn or buy points and I also think it would increase the value of the PO point. Another big thing to decide is whether to play them daily, weekly, or 2, 3, 4, or 5 times a week, etc. My suggestion would be daily since some are only able to play in the evening, so essentially everyone can get their games in, but it will be based on an average. Or you could have games strictly dedicated to these leagues so you can attract more members when they see league play titled in the tournament name in the Carbon lobby, so you are also essentially gaining free advertisement. I would also create Poker Owned shirts for the league champions so players that go to the casino can give you cheap advertisement (maybe give a promo with the most events played with a www.pokerowned.com shirt. There are untapped places out there and your member base could double if we get these additional games rolling. You would just have to create them to where we the players pay for the games so this is not overhead for the site/forum. You could have spring, summer, fall, and summer leagues.

[Zab]

Consolidated ideas to date:

PokerOwned Derby


- Stable Owner pays a fee to create a stable each month (or in the middle of the month)
- Stable Owner can hire his Horses (He can put up an offer in points to people, you can just say 0 to lets say 1000 points)
- Horses (PO Members) that offered positions in stables can either choose the BEST OFFER or the BEST STABLE that made them an offer (You decide)
- We will show how many times you were ITM the previous month, previous week, how many tournaments you play per week etc.. Alot of info
- We will pay top 3 finishes just like before
- If you Create a Stable in the middle of the month.... XYZ happens (Where you rank) not sure yet how I'll handle this
- Horses can quit in the middle of the month (be hired away by another Stable) your Stable gets credit until that day though
- Horses can make offers to become part of the stables (In points) 50% of the offer goes towards the prize pool, 50% to the Stable owner
- Horses can make offers to replace other Horses, Minimum 100 points. 50% of the offer goes towards the prize pool, 25% to the stable owner, 25% to the horse you replaced
- Make this a progressive prize pool, probably decrease the other promos slightly to make room for this. Add the drivers entry fee + progressive money
- Once you have been hired by a stable, you are protected for 3 days (Cannot be fired, replaced and you cannot quit)
- This is a Month long promotion. 1 week prior to the start of the new month, people will be given the chance at creating stables for the next month
- Prizes will break down as follows: Stable Owner 35%, Jockey (Best Horse becomes the Jockey & Stable owner can also be Jockey) 20%, All remaining horses (3) 15% each

[Zab]

- Horses can apply to stables (pay a fee from 0 - 100 pts) 50% to the Stable Owner, 50% to the prize pool

[Zab]

In certain league formats, you are able to create and choose your own team and everyone on the site participates but must purchase a ticket for each event or game. You name it what you want, you hire and fire as you like if you are the team owner. This way you are not losing out on any points a player will spend to participate in these promotions. There are also team leaders that also make decisions in who to scout, who to put on the waiver wire, etc. Some league sites have separate leagues, so you really have the option to have one big league or multiple small leagues. You could decide for yourself, take a vote, or do both because I think both formats have been proven effective already, and with the member base you already have, this place would blow up. I know multiple players that would join in a heartbeat and I think every other member that has been here for a year or longer could attest to this. I think you could run the Derby and a Poker Owned League that has the same format mentioned above and you buy your tickets similar to how you purchase them on the site. I know I would be hustling my ass off earn or buy points and I also think it would increase the value of the PO point.

Given what I just spec'd out, how close are we?

[NateVest]

Consolidated ideas to date:

PokerOwned Derby


- Stable Owner pays a fee to create a stable each month (or in the middle of the month)
- Stable Owner can hire his Horses (He can put up an offer in points to people, you can just say 0 to lets say 1000 points)
- Horses (PO Members) that offered positions in stables can either choose the BEST OFFER or the BEST STABLE that made them an offer (You decide)
- We will show how many times you were ITM the previous month, previous week, how many tournaments you play per week etc.. Alot of info
- We will pay top 3 finishes just like before
- If you Create a Stable in the middle of the month.... XYZ happens (Where you rank) not sure yet how I'll handle this
- Horses can quit in the middle of the month (be hired away by another Stable) your Stable gets credit until that day though
- Horses can make offers to become part of the stables (In points) 50% of the offer goes towards the prize pool, 50% to the Stable owner
- Horses can make offers to replace other Horses, Minimum 100 points. 50% of the offer goes towards the prize pool, 25% to the stable owner, 25% to the horse you replaced
- Make this a progressive prize pool, probably decrease the other promos slightly to make room for this. Add the drivers entry fee + progressive money
- Once you have been hired by a stable, you are protected for 3 days (Cannot be fired, replaced and you cannot quit)
- This is a Month long promotion. 1 week prior to the start of the new month, people will be given the chance at creating stables for the next month
- Prizes will break down as follows: Stable Owner 35%, Jockey (Best Horse becomes the Jockey & Stable owner can also be Jockey) 20%, All remaining horses (3) 15% each

You just summed it up basically. This is going to be your most popular promo by far in my opinion, now you just need to schedule the games and get the stables built. I know as soon as you create the official promotion you will have applications flooding in.

[NateVest]

Given what I just spec'd out, how close are we?

We are there, just need to roll it out and have it coded in your software and create the games. Thanks for thinking outside the box and pushing the envelope on forums, that is what makes this site the best by far, its like the Baskin Robbins of poker forums once this addition is in effect. Going to be very exciting and definitely cutthroat like you said earlier, I like it. Thanks Zab!