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Danger1666 Top Set on a dry board 07-02-2013, 12:43 PM
Jameuskid how much did you raise... 07-02-2013, 01:25 PM
jasonv12 Never check more than one... 07-02-2013, 01:30 PM
Danger1666 Thanks for the advice - yeah... 07-02-2013, 01:54 PM
jasonv12 You say you want to induce a... 07-09-2013, 06:20 AM
bakreni12 i never slow play becase some... 07-04-2013, 12:50 PM
sukisuki87 I would check the flop to... 07-06-2013, 09:05 PM
Twiztedtony your first mistake. you have... 07-06-2013, 09:09 PM
snklzona Have to agree that if you let... 07-07-2013, 06:47 AM
Pray4Spades Play it slow, try to get... 07-08-2013, 06:16 PM
XnashuaX There is no definite answer... 07-08-2013, 07:02 PM
Corky1 Have to agree, make them pay... 07-13-2013, 06:42 PM
jbarker305 in the scenario you laid out... 07-10-2013, 08:23 PM
Donkeyfish07 Slowplay and shove if a flush... 07-13-2013, 04:32 PM
matiusaa first of all, the bord was... 07-15-2013, 03:32 PM
jbarker305 as much as it might not make... 07-15-2013, 05:38 PM
Rcktwrangler It sounds like a hand that... 07-15-2013, 06:40 PM
c0ckmanchan1 I mean that's just fish... 07-16-2013, 11:58 AM
Jameuskid Like most people said on... 07-16-2013, 01:20 PM
sueco13 was open and u give him a... 07-24-2013, 06:01 PM
freebyrd21 That's the same guy that sits... 07-25-2013, 12:14 AM
eqgh5uea I usually just try to protect... 07-25-2013, 01:51 PM
c0ckmanchan1 that is a terrible turn of... 07-25-2013, 07:41 PM
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    Top Set on a dry board

    I wanted to get some people's opinion on playing top set on a dry board. It seems that lately when i do this against one or two opponents I get caught. KK Flop 4 - 6 - K Rainbow. I checked the flop and turn (J) and then bet the pot on the River (8) and he raises the pot again and i call. He flips over 5-7 off... he called my raises from the button.

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    how much did you raise pre-flop or did you raise preflop even. seems like a a stroke of bad luck

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    Never check more than one street to slowplay unless you have like quads or some hand that literally can't be beat is my opinion. I mean, you have to build a pot either way. I'd have bet just enough on the turn to give all possible draws a bad price, and if they call then it's their idiotic luck, but yeah a turn bet was probably correct as it forces draws out and starts to build a pot. Hope they have QJ and will pay off a little or something. Hard spot and tough break tho.

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    Thanks for the advice - yeah i didn't see alot out there that i could get some value from so i checked to the river in hopes the board would pair or an ace would come. I raised 5x the BB from early position.. no other callers. This guy is generally loose agressive and thought the check on the turn would show weakness and induce a bluff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danger1666 View Post
    Thanks for the advice - yeah i didn't see alot out there that i could get some value from so i checked to the river in hopes the board would pair or an ace would come. I raised 5x the BB from early position.. no other callers. This guy is generally loose agressive and thought the check on the turn would show weakness and induce a bluff.
    You say you want to induce a bluff, but if your opponent didn't bluff the flop, if they understand the game, how can they bluff the turn without *some* equity aka a semibluff that you would want out anyways? What would they be representing? A jack would almost never bet for value there. They wouldn't check the case king on the flop. J6, J4 wouldn't be in in the first place. They *should* never bluff the turn without some sort of flush or straight draw on a board like this unless they bet at the flop as well. It's a mistake. It would just have to be a mistake. It accomplishes nothing but saying, "hey reraise me, I got air and might be drawing." Maybe if they are a really big fish, I could see this, but even then, their cards could be anything aka the 53 and then you still have to worry about that too. Plus by hooking them on this way, you are also making your knowledge of the possible hands they could have equal to about nothing.

    Sometimes, you just got to accept your hand is too powerful to get action from worse because you have all but one of cards to get you action locked up (the last king) and you can know based on their flop action, that they don't have it.

    The only action you'll end up getting is based on some miracle runner runner checking two streets let get there.

    Just bet and try to hope they hit the J, otherwise take the pot there and move on would be my advice.
    Last edited by jasonv12; 07-09-2013 at 01:08 PM.

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    i never slow play becase some always get god hand

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    I would check the flop to induce bluff or give the Opponent a card to catch. I would also check the turn to allow the op to catch a card. Then value bet.

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    your first mistake. you have to make him pay to draw. you gave him a free card.

    think of it like this
    you over bet both times.. if he calls and calls his draw and you still lose no biggie
    make a mental note. this player is a calling station donkey
    you use that to ur advantage.
    Im postive if you would have made a continuation value bet he would have folded by fourth street

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    Have to agree that if you let them have free cards you have encouraged draws...by river you only get called by hand that beats yours...

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    Play it slow, try to get maximum value, they won't hit a miracle straight more than 5% of the time on a board like that, so you will be profiting in the long run.

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