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    Pocket Jacks

    I hate trying to play pocket Jacks they can be tough on how to raise or what to do when raised against

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    i JUST FOLD THEM
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    Quote Originally Posted by eqgh5uea View Post
    i JUST FOLD THEM
    Folding JJ is not advisable in most circumstances. I find that I'm always going to raise with them... and it is a hand worth a 3bet when necessary. If you're raiser is UTG I'm probably just gonna call with JJ, especially if that player is LAG as I don't wanna shove before I see a flop as most players are going in with AK or AQ and it's a coinflip slightly in my favor. If up against a NIT a 3 bet is essential because if he just flat calls your 3bet you know you're probably ahead if no paint or A hits the flop. If the NIT 4 bets you, you probably should know you're beat...

    There are plenty of times late in a tournament where I have folded JJ because I didn't want to risk a heavy portion of my chips (around half or so) or all in when I have plenty of stack to make it deeper into the payout without winning that hand. Hell i've folded QQ before at a final table preflop with 6 people left, guy shoved in and he and I were chip leaders and I didnt need to win that hand to keep dominating so I let him take it, he showed me AKs... I was happy to fold because I didn't wanna get eliminated, had I lost I would have been crippled in chips to nearly nothin, and taken 6th place, instead i patiently waited and ended up taking 1st place for a much larger profit!

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    honestly jj tt 33 66 kk aa its all the same shit....
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    Quote Originally Posted by dk12 View Post
    honestly jj tt 33 66 kk aa its all the same shit....
    hehe, hate to admit that, but thats true, just dont overvalue any pocket pair until u see a set(or quad) on table, just call bb or small raise with JJ, if Q, K or A shows up on table....TAKE CARE, dont go calling big raises hoping to hit JJJ, keep it low, if u hit it u can then now try to raise and see if there's callers, but u obviously have to keep in mind that someone can be holding QQ, KK or AA and just hit a higher set.......shrunk.gif
    Last edited by Swittie; 11-23-2012 at 08:32 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Swittie View Post
    hehe, hate to admit that, but thats true, just dont overvalue any pocket pair until u see a set(or quad) on table, just call bb or small raise with JJ, if Q, K or A shows up on table....TAKE CARE, dont go calling big raises hoping to hit JJJ, keep it low, if u hit it u can then now try to raise and see if there's callers, but u obviously have to keep in mind that someone can be holding QQ, KK or AA and just hit a higher set.......shrunk.gif
    So always limp with a PP? LOL no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdog1797 View Post
    I hate trying to play pocket Jacks they can be tough on how to raise or what to do when raised against
    I agree JJ can be hard to play but if the reads you have on your opponents are decent enough, and you have a decent understanding of how to play winning poker, JJ should be a profitable hand in the long run. Versus a random hand, JJ has ~%77 equity.

    Over my relatively small data set of hands I have been dealt JJ 53 times, voluntarily put money into the pot ~%94 of the time, and am winning ~%75 of those times.

    Not sure if the other replies are serious or not (I really hope not) but both are pretty wrong...

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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Slice View Post
    I agree JJ can be hard to play but if the reads you have on your opponents are decent enough, and you have a decent understanding of how to play winning poker, JJ should be a profitable hand in the long run. Versus a random hand, JJ has ~%77 equity.

    Over my relatively small data set of hands I have been dealt JJ 53 times, voluntarily put money into the pot ~%94 of the time, and am winning ~%75 of those times.

    Not sure if the other replies are serious or not (I really hope not) but both are pretty wrong...
    thats exactly what i said~
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    Originally posted by dk12
    honestly jj tt 33 66 kk aa its all the same shit....

    Originally Posted by J_Slice
    I agree JJ can be hard to play but if the reads you have on your opponents are decent enough, and you have a decent understanding of how to play winning poker, JJ should be a profitable hand in the long run. Versus a random hand, JJ has ~%77 equity.

    Over my relatively small data set of hands I have been dealt JJ 53 times, voluntarily put money into the pot ~%94 of the time, and am winning ~%75 of those times.

    Not sure if the other replies are serious or not (I really hope not) but both are pretty wrong...

    Quote Originally Posted by dk12 View Post
    thats exactly what i said~
    I literally LOL when I read this. Focking hilarious. Thank you for the good laugh dk12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Slice View Post
    I agree JJ can be hard to play but if the reads you have on your opponents are decent enough, and you have a decent understanding of how to play winning poker, JJ should be a profitable hand in the long run. Versus a random hand, JJ has ~%77 equity.

    Over my relatively small data set of hands I have been dealt JJ 53 times, voluntarily put money into the pot ~%94 of the time, and am winning ~%75 of those times.




    Not sure if the other replies are serious or not (I really hope not) but both are pretty wrong...
    I could not agree more.In fact, I would have written a very similar response earlier if I wasn't so lazy. I think that more often times than not your hand isn't important. Start thinking about what your opponent has, and what your opponent thinks you may have. You have to understand that both of you are telling a story.

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