Playing top 2 pair

[donny111]

first level of an online tournament:
blinds 10-20 2000 in chips
first pot ive entered and i raise to 80 with AQ and get 1 caller.
flop comes AQ10. i bet 150 and get called
turn card comes an 8 and i bet 450 and get called.
river card comes another 8. (there is no possible flush )
WHAT DO YOU DO?

[amele751]

i would go all in. I dont think there is a trap there.

[Zerchai]

I think he may have TT. dont think he has a straight.So either a set or nothing.I cant suggest any right move here

[galpokergal]

i definetly make a value bet in that situation cuz is very dificult that the villain called with a 8 ur first bet right?
He probably has some ace or q or maybe T...
what u did?lol

[confused247]

I think I would value bet after the river. I could see his hand range being AJ, A10, KQ, 10s, or maybe a smaller pocket pair. If he flopped a straight or a set I would expect to see a reraise.

[joefine]

I think I would value bet after the river. I could see his hand range being AJ, A10, KQ, 10s, or maybe a smaller pocket pair. If he flopped a straight or a set I would expect to see a reraise.

why would the guy reraise if he had a straight? the only straight on the flop is KJ - the nuts and he he has position with someone betting large into him. if i did flop the nuts - i would be just flatting too letting the guy hang himself.

and if he caught a set on the flop, then he filled up on the river.

shoving really only destroys the value of the hand turing into a bluff. Top two has good showdown value and you would want to get to showdown as cheaply as possible.

[StephyMarieC]

why would the guy reraise if he had a straight? the only straight on the flop is KJ - the nuts and he he has position with someone betting large into him. if i did flop the nuts - i would be just flatting too letting the guy hang himself.

and if he caught a set on the flop, then he filled up on the river.

shoving really only destroys the value of the hand turing into a bluff. Top two has good showdown value and you would want to get to showdown as cheaply as possible.

I meant shove on the river to get the maximum amount possible and knock him out after all that's the point of a sng to be the last one standing.

[joefine]

I meant shove on the river to get the maximum amount possible and knock him out after all that's the point of a sng to be the last one standing.

agreed. but it's a tourny and the blinds are only 10/20 which means it's probably level 1. if it's rebuy and you're willing to reinvest go ahead and shove but again you are really only getting called by a better hand in that spot. you only have the 10th best hand on that board. don't see the value in shoving that spot but like i said many times before - i am a super nit.

[StephyMarieC]

agreed. but it's a tourny and the blinds are only 10/20 which means it's probably level 1. if it's rebuy and you're willing to reinvest go ahead and shove but again you are really only getting called by a better hand in that spot. you only have the 8th best hand on that board. don't see the value in shoving that spot but like i said many times before - i am a super nit.

I'm also a very tight player but in this particular situation this guy was not going to fold his AQ, he already had alot invested in the pot and he believed he had the best hand so I would shove on the river hoping to get paid off. I'm not saying I would have played the hand the same as him at all but the way he described it that would have been my decision.

[confused247]

why would the guy reraise if he had a straight? the only straight on the flop is KJ - the nuts and he he has position with someone betting large into him. if i did flop the nuts - i would be just flatting too letting the guy hang himself.

and if he caught a set on the flop, then he filled up on the river.

shoving really only destroys the value of the hand turing into a bluff. Top two has good showdown value and you would want to get to showdown as cheaply as possible.

Sorry, I wasn't clear in my post. What I meant was; if he flopped a straight or a set I would expect to see a reraise on the river following your value bet. I think a value bet here is a +EV play.