It seems like the hardest street to play.
Do you bluff alot?
Do you bet middle pairs?
Do you still chase your draws?
What do you do?
I personally just try not to bluff, but will still try to value bet middle pair heads up.
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It seems like the hardest street to play.
Do you bluff alot?
Do you bet middle pairs?
Do you still chase your draws?
What do you do?
I personally just try not to bluff, but will still try to value bet middle pair heads up.
Maybe it's just because the post is only 2 hrs old, but I suspect the reason you have not gotten any responses despite some views is that it's basically a meaningless question. If someone claims to have a set strategy for the turn, regardless of EVERYTHING else that might play into any given situation, I want to know their site names so I can try to play every game with them.
+1
The turn is the hardest street to play? Not when I have the nuts and someone shoves into me. Not when I have air and someone shoves into me. Not when I have had two streets to define my opponents hand. This question barely merits response, other than getting 5 pts.
There are a lot of things that factor in to playing the turn. Table setup and my table image make up a big part of the decision. Cards only matter if I have been playing loosely for a while and then need to have a hand to win.
id say it depends on tournament or cash, pot control is huge on the turn in tournaments
calm down bud
all in lol
Talk about nonspecific. You could write a series of books to answer this question.
Give me a simple scenario, I'll give you my simple opinion. I guess that makes 10. I'll try not to spend it all in one place...
this was a great thread to read!! had me cracking up laughing!! LOL LOL
The more I think about it, the more I believe the correct answer is FOLD.
To give you a real answer, the turn is the most important street in tournament poker. In general, most non-regs tend to call the turn too wide, either drawing or trying to pick up a read on the river (this is not to say that doublefloating is bad, it is sometimes important to have in your arsenal). In general, your play on the turn will be based on your opponent, how much money you want in the pot, and whether you want a fold or more action. If you have the betting lead IP on the turn, keep in mind that if you check back:
1) you are playing for only one more street of value (a raise on the river will usually look suspicious to good player and your opponent won't often c/r you) or
2)your bluffs will be less believable on the river. (suicide bluff line)
IP if you decide you want to continue to bet, you have much more flexibility:
1)With value hands, the 2nd barrel will often cause your opponent to check river (If he calls), meaning you can then go for 3rd street of value or go to a showdown
2)with bluffs, you will get a fold from those who love to float; if raised you will save the $ you might have spent on a 3rd barrel; and if called you can decide to fire once more on river (once again villains often will check after your 2 barrels)
this post is just for IP with betting lead, will describe more aspects in future posts... Always know what you plan to do when called or raised, and your plays should be largely opponent specific
I think you shouldn't generalize something like this.
all depends on how the players in played pre flop, and flop.. also depends on your positioning
agreed; if i was to seriously write something about this; it would take me days
Very nice topic here. Not really, but here is my reply. Oh, great responses too. :rolleyes: Everyone plays their little game differently; every game, every hand, every person constantly changes...playing on the same table versus the next table obviously has a different scenario and thus a different outcome on every turn card played. I suggest that you just play your turn cards the best way that's already working for you.
As for the other scenario, I skip eating on Wednesdays and I tend to eat three lunches on Thursday.:rolleyes:
Typically I like to play the turn card at or on the turn. Strictly situational.
Pot odds unlike you are trying to bluff
I tried to play the turn card several times. I was told its not my card, its a community card and that I only get two cards that are mine.
lol
no way to play the turn, whatever you do is the wrong decision, better to check/fold
Depends on the other player's bluffing or range they played... You can't very well fold every set to a str8 draw or flush draw, however the range can.
Totally depends on the player however it's good to know that the variance of it can be overcome with good play, usually when you have a higher kicker, a pocket pair boat, or whathaveyou.
Tournament or cash game? Stack size? Opponent range? Board texture? Very complex question with many variables that we need more information to answer or speculate on.
the turn, the flop, fifth street, if you don't play them differently during a long tournament, you become the fish. now if its a cash game maybe different
wow a loaded question - too many variables to give and accurate answer to
I make an extremely large re raise because I realize my opponent is betting a flush draw, then he refuses to fold and catches on the river.
wow such hostility in this thread lol, calm down ppl