I was wondering if some of the Mods would consider gathering all the WHich Poker sites are best and tilts and brags re payouts into a couple of threads and have some of the more reliable members comment and edit/mark as to reliability and accuracy? I am spending a lot of time reading and trying to evaluate these threads and getting more and more conflicting information... so far I think that the consensus is that carbon, bcp and bovada rate best among PO users n Bet Online and Juicy and Grid can't be trusted for payouts??? ZMITAL