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    Quote Originally Posted by tracyrickrobby View Post
    i dont ever recall esfondiari playing a 4T maybe tom dwan!!
    This was from Final Table of One Drop, I am kinda shocked at those numbers since the guy has always presented pretty tight for the most part...

    Esfandiari had a VPIP of 37% and a PFR of 31%. By contrast, Hellmuth's VPIP and PFR were both 8%

    Prolly be more representative if we had a total MTT VPIP instead of limited hands at a FT.

    So I took a look at Esfandiari's hands over High Stakes Poker (Seasons 1-7) where it was a televised hand, which presents its own skewed factor, and he is still 33 / 16 over 544 hands.

    I'm guessing if you could determine his VPIP over a long stretch, it would be under 20...
    Last edited by WECpoker; 12-14-2013 at 04:23 PM.

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