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peeps who shove all in all the time gives me a read that they are not good poker players, look for that sign when you playin..sometimes it best to call or slight raise ak, so you can read the board and determine your winning odds..also peeps who shove with ak when the board is blank for ex.5 9 2, is not smart either. any thoughts on this...:cool:
i think ure pointing out the obvious...
Totally agree...AK is not a made and, it's just the best of the rest at that point. My standard of play has gone downhill dramatically in the PO frerolls as I get into the "catch the donkey" mindset.....Trouble is, that turns you into just another donkey, making too many huge bets and calls without real information.
I agree when people use the shove all in as there only technique but I've found when my stack is low and the blinds are high, all in or fold is the only move that makes sense.
depends on the situation, if i raise preflop with AK and its a dry board i will always c bet, i win 80% of the time wen i do this, i mean how else u gonna scoop the pot if u dont bet it ?
Well but you are talking about raising and c-betting and not of shoving Allin with this handQuote:
Originally Posted by BLINGBLAOW
yes ur right but sometimes my c bet is a shove all inQuote:
Originally Posted by watte29
shoving on a dry board is a good move
too many chasers out there and cant count the times i lose
on the turn or river
you will think that is a pretty good move, but many players play a rag more so than ak, so once you shove you are committed..just food for thoughtQuote:
Originally Posted by pokerpiglet
No offense but the All in move doesn't mean that someone isn't good at poker...It's all about situations and stuff and can be used in a variety of different ways...I mean once you get to about 12bbs what exactly do you have for a move besides all in pre when in position?? what are you goin to do raise 3x then fold on the flop once you don't hit and someone else leads into the pot...Your down to 9bbs into a pot of 7bbs (granted BB didnt call)..someone leads out 4bbs into this pot and leaving you spewing your chips away.Quote:
Originally Posted by gametime74
The other way is some players will use the All in move against pro's or players that they feel they have a disadvantage against because they are being out played post flop against them
Also you can use the all in as another way to accumulate chips (if used effectively with the correct stack sizes and right portion of the tournament) as a re-shove in position or squeeze play.
valid pts, but i was more referring to players who shove all in constantly like 75% of time when they got q10, a10..etc..Quote:
Originally Posted by gsxr5221
lol yea i figured as much...I was goin to say but I know what type of players you are talkin about at the micro stakes but I got side tracked multi taskin and just hit reply lol
all-in is a move just like slow play and donkey its all poker
Some poker player's just don't care, that's why the go all in all the time.
Lots of factors come into play ... seen whole chapters in books about "the shove".
Shoving when deep stacked is generally a bad play ... shoving when short stacked is generally a good play... making a shove is better than calling a shove.
too much shoving in poker is like playing bingo, sometimes its better to see the flop...
:) - ;)
Its one thing to shove when your low stacked or when blinds are getting big but early on in a turny its just a donkey move preflop. Theres no value in shoving to steal 50 in blinds and alot of times there isnt even 50 in the pot. later on in turny after ITM its not that bad of a play cause blinds are usually 3 or 4k. But there are situation for every kind of play
I go all-in alot... for that very reason,,, all of the above...lol
You are correct, It is Called "NO LIMIT" What a stupid Thread
why respond in the thread then, i guess you just as stupid, my thread stay the phuck out if you dont like it you bumQuote:
Originally Posted by sprocketdog
shoving all in preflop is necessary if you are dangerously short stacked, you cant expext to play meaningful poker with only 10bbs left. If you know your ass from your elbow in a game of poker you will either fold or jam.
That's why the majority of players I've run into like to limp in that situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by thinknhurtz
All-in is a style of play, all be it not a very wise one.
Ive played with many of you, Mr.D, Bling, and a few others. All of these replies are great ones gxsr says it all, I believe that when your near being SS and in the right pos. shoving with AK is the right moved. However, it is much easier to go all in then to call an all in with AK!! To me it all depends on the table the level of players at the table and very much the situation. If I Raise 5X BB with AK in late pos. and have two callers im always going to c-bet to help my read or take the pot there.......thats JMO!!
these are some of my favorite fish .. when I spot this kind of player willing to shove for either no reason or because they sense weakness they are the perfect type of player to bait and trap.Quote:
Originally Posted by gametime74
i agree.......going all in preflop all the time takes all the skill out of poker and makes it all about luck
Great point, i see people shove AK all the time when the board doesnt hit them. They just like giving out free chips :O
i hate wen ppl keep raising for no reason and u keep folding even if u have good cards then ultimately u call and lose inspite of having a good hand that sucksss!! lol