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we are looking to coach players that need help learning the game we can teach plo8/plo/holdem/mtt play/sng play/hu and other games included we would like 40% of profit made 20% for each of us the person we coach gets 60% hit us up if u are interested!
we will gtd to make any losing player/a player new to the game a winning player!!!!!!!!!!
LOLOLOL you are the coaching lil g that is some funny shit ive watched your donk ass play alot before you are HORRIBLE
Ive played with lilg for years and our styles are not too much apart, aggressive but smart, he wins, all that matters, i get called a donk all the time, but its not because i just call off my stack or anything, i very much use smart play and pick and choose my opportunities to chip up smartly. I think lilg is a solid player. As for me, I know i am a solid player and with that said, there will be rules to this coaching apart from the % lilg has stated.....Quote:
Originally Posted by layoh21
Rules and Terms of agreement-
1. Student will listen to EVERYTHING, if student has questions, feel free to ask, the more questions the better so the student understands the concept behind the 'moves' or 'plays'
2. This will be for SWC or ACR/BCP only with p2p.
3. Coaches will set times and schedules and will work with students from start to finish of sessions, be prepared to put in 8+ hour sessions.
4. Buyins will not be under 5.00, any amounts above that will be up to the Student, the student will use STRICT BRM but will be obliged to 'Take a Shot' once in a while.
5. Coaches have the right to terminate the lessons 'At Will', but about the only way that this will happen is if the Student is being stubborn to change his playstyle.
6. Student must have join.me and skype, all sessions will be via skype and join.me, no exceptions.
7. Fees will only be taken if the 'student' wins, no winnings = no fees, so free of charge, only thing student is responsible for is the buyins.
8. I guarantee you will win and have lots of success.
I have played poker for 14 years with 100k+ online winnings with many major tournament Sunday wins along with 25/50 cash on ftp pre black friday.
I have a 27% roi in NLH mtt's with average field of 357+ and average buyin of 22.
With winning comes money, with money comes... well ill quote boiler room..... "People that dont say money makes you happy, look at the fucking smile on my face"
Pm me if you are interested, FIRST and only first lesson is free, after that the coaching session will last minimum 2 months if the student would like to continue to learn.
This is a real proposition and with respect to myself and to lilg please do not flame for trying to make people better players, I kindly appreciate your gracefulness in advance.
John Erwin aka getmesome2
yea i have a question, how do you coach on sites that have been either A. known as scamming colluding (swc) or B. Site is rigged (lilgs words, not mine). I'm curious to how that works
Dont you know? All sites are rigged when it comes to variance! haha, but really, I will teach you how not to tilt and how to handle those situations that make you furious and say things like this. It took me a lot of years to overcome it and find comfort in being beat and saying 'nh' or 'wtf' lol :)Quote:
Originally Posted by s810car
ok....joke not received properly so, another angle more serious. I have same length of experience timewise and while my early years are questionable nowadays with my cash rate I can pass 100k in 2 1/2 years, so teaching tilt control not really necessary :cool: but looking at your SS for Merge, one part comes to mind
I'll give it to you your $1-2 buyin range have impressive ROI. the $5 ROI is decent too. Above that? $10 buyin at -49% roi. I'm not calling it out to insult, but offering to coach at a level you aren't profitable at is dishonest at minimum, actively scamming at worstQuote:
4. Buyins will not be under 5.00, any amounts above that will be up to the Student, the student will use STRICT BRM but will be obliged to 'Take a Shot' once in a while.
[QUOTE=s810car;364905]ok....joke not received properly so, another angle more serious. I have same length of experience timewise and while my early years are questionable nowadays with my cash rate I can pass 100k in 2 1/2 years, so teaching tilt control not really necessary :cool: but looking at your SS for Merge, one part comes to mind
those are from 10 dollar turbos buying in with 20 min late with 5 bb's lol.... i dont even count those, i was playing for fun before i cashed out to put on bcp. For students I will give my entire sn's and history upon request. Good eye though and thanks for bringing it up, remember i took 2 years off after blackfriday because ALL my money was locked up and still is. i went from 0-1k on carbon in a week. look at my 33 bi's roi.... the 10's were the nightly turbos.
looks good to me besides the turbo 10's, lmk if u want some lessons m8, ill give u my full details of my ftp/ps from years past. Only students will get this info though. And yes that is a small sample, but ive played over 20,000 games over 14 years of playing.
If you would like a free lesson (not saying you are bad, ive played you many times) I will be more than happy and you be the judge. Free of charge obviously for one session.
ive made more moneylast night then u would see in yo career now gtfo spamming ass noob O_O
also good terms getsome i agree :)
im up over 1650$$$ jsut from yesterday -lastnigth move on:)
So is this a money-back guarantee? This is a pretty bold promise.Quote:
Originally Posted by getmesome2
Keep in mind you are supposed to use those sites for your own knowledge, you are not supposed to be attaching someone else's graphs or stats, it is against the TOC of those sites.
I aint trynna start shit Pooffy but It should also be against the rules to state you can help and guarantee profit, but yet when someone shows a graph of them and it shows otherwise, all he was doing was trying to basicly show that its not GUARANTEED PROFIT, as stated!!
Ok....I'll Humor youQuote:
Originally Posted by getmesome2
Think a few more games needed to determine ROI there (graph was posted, not allowed so removed but shows only 4 games played at 33 buyin)
I understand that, but seriously, if anyone is going to pay for coaching, you don't think they would look them up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaytodd28
If you do not win after the 2 months, i will personally give you 40% of my winnings for 2 months after the lessons, yes that is how confident I am. Poker is a skill game with some luck involved, not a luck game with some skill involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by rivdee
No Joke.
You're giving people a lot of credit.Quote:
Originally Posted by PooffyFooffy
Im jus saying nothing s810car did was wrong IMO, he was jus looking out for the poker community is all!! But I do understand other ppl can look there stats up themselves!!
That the 1600 you lost AA<23 ? lol $1600 isn't that high a goal to make me acheive, well since i cant post graphs how bout a linkQuote:
Originally Posted by lilg97
s810car - Poker Player
Shouldnt be an issue being my own, now click the winning network one and look at the oldest date, you'll see that this is 3 mo history lol, not to mention doesnt track my cash wins, or sngs, etc. try again g
That graph shows a winning player..... over a week of playing from scratch to playing some 33's. Besides I am not here to defend myself, i won 19 mtt's over the past 2 weeks, i think im pretty damn good. So i played some nightly turbos and bought in 3-4 times when blinds were 400/800, who cares, it was for fun for myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaytodd28
Instead of trying to explain how bad people are, why dont you try a free lesson and be the judge yourself, please. Thank you!
Not saying I dont need any lessons, but im pretty sure I can handle my own with just about anybody on this site!! But thanks for the offer!!
How bout you PMIC and lets see how I can do over a weeks time? Then you can tell me if I need a coach or not?
Last I checked posting your own stats is ok and not against any stat sites rules, but like pooffy said posting "someone else's" is. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by s810car
Ok here's my issue, there's a lot of members )esp very new) that will see lilg has a decent rep here, and will think of signing up for this without really doing any research. The problem is there is no real sign of experience in coaching (and many will also add real ability but I'm not going to judge there) to make these outrages claims of gtd improvement/winning, expect such a high cut, AND expect player to jump limits into something they most def be outclassed in, with little hope to get real improvement anytime soon, I just think this looks really bad on PO if someone got burnt bad from this
just offering bud, im sure you can as most can, but I am not being cocky here, I just would like to help players out, and you think im going to help for free? Nope, time is money my friend. But the first lesson a full session will be free. GL to you on the tables, wish you the best of luck and remember All in, All day, every day! Such is life!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaytodd28
Alright let me see how diplomatic I can be about this whole idea.
I applaud you two for trying to be enterprising and get a little business going. However there are some flaws with this plan that need to be worked out:
I'm not doubting getmesome's stats or ability, but the fact is you have been here 3 weeks and with the history of this site, i feel like it takes a LOT more time than that to build up a level of trust with the community to get this kind of commitment started with our clientele here. Also, the idea of $5 buyins or higher here really limits your student body since this site, beyond being a GPT site, its a site where people play the freerolls trying to build a BR. You are guaranteeing money back for a guarantee you can't make (NO ONE can make a promise that you'll be profitable)
As far as g's credentials as a teacher go, he takes CRAZY BR swings and tilts like a motherfacker. Im not saying he doesn't have good days and is clueless, but BR management is not his strongpoint (and G would agree with this, its not meant as an insult). The whole point of what you guys are trying to accomplish is making someone a winning player, which requires discipline.
The other element about this that is tough is that teachers, in general in life, possess a level of humility that allows them to bring out the best in a student. No offense, but telling the room every 2 minutes about every hand you've won and every tournament you're in and what your stack is at isn't really a display of that. The most successful people in life let people tell them they are talented, they don't feel the need to self-promote.
Your idea has some merit but there are kinks you need to work out before you actually establish this to the community here.
lets see some stats from sharkscope for this brilliant coaching staff
+11111111111
you can look those up, their names are in their profilesQuote:
Originally Posted by layoh21
for what site carbon?
sign me up.
@rivdee makes a valid point, new to the community but not new to poker, but this is not profitable to pokerowned in any way, its an agreement between two parties. Your feedback is appreciated.
As for the buyin, The free lesson you can play any stake that you wish, if its 50 cent on demands, then so be it, but if you agree to continue the coaching, the only way this will be profitable to myself is if you play medium stakes.
I get bored of grinding, I would much rather play some days and coach others, I need breaks just like everyone needs them or i would be mindnumb.
I will give all stats to students, I very much enjoy my privacy and would like to keep it that way. I am not here to gloat or to say im better than you, I am here to be part of a great community in which ive known many people here for 4-5 years already, so really im not new.
I will be more than willing to answer any questions in PM's that you have, I would appreciate the doubts and pessimistic comments to be sent to me privately and not on this thread that was started to support poker and pokerowned community. (yes it does help the community non directly)
This seems to be a stepping stone for PO and why not embrace it if it is successful, as i stated previously, the first lesson is free, there is no charge at all, only a fee of winnings only, it is A NO-RISK coaching.
I sincerely hope that one of you will partake in this and see just how much better you will become.
PM me please if serious inquiry. ThxQuote:
Originally Posted by squid300
Thread is Comical, Sorry jus my opinion!!
im a top 3 player on this site. I have a longterm roi of well over 60% at stakes much higher than what you are offering coaching at.Quote:
Originally Posted by getmesome2
I think I will be fine.
Good luck you two. Do I foresee a coaching section in the Trade Center?
Good luck with your plans for coaching.