sickest fold ever ( and only for 900 points! )

Dealt to RcktWrangler [9h 8h]
gametime74 checks
fluffypuppy calls 100
donaldmega calls 100
awoll714 folds
RcktWrangler checks
** Flop ** [Ts Ac 7c]
RcktWrangler checks
gametime74 checks
fluffypuppy checks
donaldmega checks
** Turn ** [Jd]
RcktWrangler bets 500
gametime74 folds
fluffypuppy folds
donaldmega raises to 1446 (All-in)
RcktWrangler folds
donaldmega refunded 946
donaldmega wins Pot (1442)
Rake (8)
donaldmega shows [Kh Qd]

only 900 more to call and win like 2500 and i folded the 2nd nuts. could you make this fold?

depends on who I was up against, you all play each other in client a lot, so I believe you must have known mega had the goods. Outside of client I would have been dust :(

Good fold by the way ;)

thanks man , honestly against don its normally an insta fold , but they wouldnt really believe i had 8 9 if i insta folded. and i had to tell them haha :p

That was a good fold, alot of people would of called

would u have called don? only 1 hand can beat you!

That's one of the best folds I have ever seen, only one hand beats you. Don't know many pros who would fold that hand.

Yeah, not that hard to make that fold when you consider there is still a flush river possibility.

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Originally Posted by steveg78

Yeah, not that hard to make that fold when you consider there is still a flush river possibility.

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i dont play with fear . if i thought he had a flush draw i would insta call

thats the best way to play. With no fear. if you play scared you will lose more often than you win

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Originally Posted by AryAlton

thats the best way to play. With no fear. if you play scared you will lose more often than you win

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Do you use a poker tracker?

against donmega in client maybe ;)

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Originally Posted by lowball

against donmega in client maybe ;)

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no kidding , guy always has the nuts.

Great fold and all but it makes like zero sense given the action. Limped pot pre-flop, checked flop then you fold 2nd nuts to small shove. Getting 2.5/1 on the call with 2nd nuts in a hand that went unraised until turn.

I know your gonna think im just hating but its just an opinion.

The thing that i really cant grasp is that for someone who attempts an above average amount of hero calls would fold the 2nd nuts for so little. But that hand history couldnt lie could it.

First of all , if don limped , you know he doesn't have AA-10's . because he would raise it. don is the type of player with a limp in front of him he is just going to call behind with KQ.
2nd... don is also the type of guy who only shows the nuts , and if he has the same hand as me good for him , good bet. but i guarantee 80-90% of the time he is going to have KQ when he reshoves 1400 all in in that spot
and finally , i make an above average amount of hero calls , and an above average amount of hero folds. my ego gets to me sometimes and cant fold when i should , but i can fold hands like this. and you saying " But that hand history couldnt lie could it" obviously means you think i just changed my whole cards. I really wish i had a screen shot , it's ok , ill get a screen shot of the next 1.

i sat was an easy fold to don:) he wouldnt bluff there and go alll in,, i f didnt have it,,, againt someones else,, u prolly would call tho...:)

But in this instance with chip stacks i dont see don having any move other than shoving with a wide range of hands. Flatting the 500 leaving himself with 900 and pot being 1500 would be pointless, as if he has nothing a 900 bluff on river isnt getting alot of folds and if he is calling 1/3 of his stack on the turn he will likely put in the rest on the river so shoving just gives him some fold equity. So really if he has any part of that board shoving is his only play.

To me for the odds your getting on turn you just gotta call and if he got the nuts he got the nuts. Like if you flop mid set vs top set, its a cooler it happens. I just dont see how you can make this fold, Not that i couldnt put him on KQ but making folds like this just isnt profitable in the long run.

If you bet your draw on flop then this thread never happens.

This was a great fold, but at the end of your post you asked "could you make this fold" and im just explaining why i couldnt.

I disagree with you saying if he has any part of the board he shoves ... hes got to have atleast AJ . but in this instance i just happened to have him on KQ. ... and you don't have to call if you trust your read that he has a better hand. i get that it isn't profitable in the long run vs. any other players ... but against don , someone who almost always turns over the nuts , Ill fold that all day long.

LOL you both need to get a hotel room for one night and bone a hottie at the same time, but then again you two would argue about that also ;)

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LOL you both need to get a hotel room for one night and bone a hottie at the same time, but then again you two would argue about that also ;)

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she's mine . he can bone the wall. haha ;)

thats a pretty freakin sick fold, hard to even believe, lets play together, and fold everything unless if you have the first nuts

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Originally Posted by b112895

thats a pretty freakin sick fold, hard to even believe, lets play together, and fold everything unless if you have the first nuts

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nah doesn't work that way. but i will surely play you.

Yeah but when you take into account your image. Your BB in a limped pot. Flop is checked around and then you lead the turn. How many times have you made a move like this when you see noone wants the pot after everyone checked behind you on the turn.

You imo could make your 500 bet with a wide range of hands, and im sure don has played a bit with you and knows the same, therefore he could shove with a wide range of hands.

The reason i said he is better off shoving rather than flat calling is because you are likely to lead out on most rivers, as it is known you can tripple barrel bluff, So if he has something good enough to call the 500 he might aswell shove because why even call 1/3 of his stack when theres a 90% chance your gonna put him all in on river, So by shoving hes getting some fold equity.

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Originally Posted by Prawney

Yeah but when you take into account your image. Your BB in a limped pot. Flop is checked around and then you lead the turn. How many times have you made a move like this when you see noone wants the pot after everyone checked behind you on the turn.

You imo could make your 500 bet with a wide range of hands, and im sure don has played a bit with you and knows the same, therefore he could shove with a wide range of hands.

The reason i said he is better off shoving rather than flat calling is because you are likely to lead out on most rivers, as it is known you can tripple barrel bluff, So if he has something good enough to call the 500 he might aswell shove because why even call 1/3 of his stack when theres a 90% chance your gonna put him all in on river, So by shoving hes getting some fold equity.

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once again i say even though don has played with me and know i can bluff alot .... he also knows cards win in the client . so he has the nuts here.

Fair enough His only possible hand is KQ

Might aswell delete thread as not really a sick fold if its so blissfully obvious he has the nuts

You can since you don't like it so much.

If you think about it my arguements make it a sick fold as im arguing how many other possibilties there could be here, so folding 2nd nuts is a sick fold,

Your arguement is its only possible for him to have the nuts so fold is just standard.

So by making all these arguements im giving you props for folding, but you just see me saying he could have something other than the nuts as a dig.

only thing that comes to mind is AJ ... or the same hand i had ... but would he raise AJ given the action? i dont know . guess it was just an instinct thing.

My whole point here is that there is no action to get a read off. I mean its a limped pot. Then the flop is checked down. THen the BB opens the turn. BB literally could have any 2 and as the BB as made no action in the hand other than check pre flop and on the flop how can you get a read of his lead on the turn.

BB could easily have 1 pair, even 2 pair, BB could have turned a straight draw or like you did turn the straight. If your in dons position here and you see BB check pre flop, then check the flop when 1st to act. What do you put him on for his pot sized bet. To me it defo doesnt scream monster. So thats why i think don can shove with a lot more than the nuts.

Also Don's shove was for 2/3 pot, so its not like hes shoving 4-5 times the pot putting a lot of chips at risk. So while AJ is possible it wouldnt really surpise me if he turned over 1 pair with a K or Q for broadway draw.

As I have said every post, While this is a good fold all you said in your first post was could you make this fold and all ive done is state why i probly wouldnt make this fold.

Your thinking is way more complex than most people here. lol

WTF guys, I never make that fold. Forget soul read. It's neg ev to fold that hand over 1000 replays.

Bad fold. You would've won and you were invested when u bet 500. why bet 500 and then fold to a re-raise? actually y not shove instead of bet the 500? it only showed weakness because u didnt shove there.

wowsers excellent fold props too u on that!!! thats impressive!!!

very good fold, man, all he needed was a 10, no hesitation ( don't know if that word is spelt correctly ) dump them like ur a$$ is on fire!!!!