Please give me some advice about this hand

PokerStars Hand #100533210183: Tournament #750220355, $0.25+$0.00 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2013/06/24 23:42:49 ET
Table '750220355 46' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: djtiagomag (8382 in chips)
Seat 2: JuanBC (3505 in chips)
Seat 3: batton76 (42155 in chips)
Seat 5: TunguiAK1422 (11877 in chips)
Seat 6: andru13 (6642 in chips)
Seat 7: tibirun26 (1730 in chips)
Seat 8: dosaa7 (14885 in chips)
Seat 9: okaaa (5270 in chips)
djtiagomag: posts the ante 50
JuanBC: posts the ante 50
batton76: posts the ante 50
TunguiAK1422: posts the ante 50
andru13: posts the ante 50
tibirun26: posts the ante 50
dosaa7: posts the ante 50
okaaa: posts the ante 50
okaaa: posts small blind 200
djtiagomag: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dosaa7 [Ac 6s]
JuanBC: folds
batton76: folds
TunguiAK1422: folds
andru13: folds
tibirun26: folds
dosaa7: raises 400 to 800
okaaa: calls 600
djtiagomag: folds
*** FLOP *** [As 3s 8c]
okaaa: checks
dosaa7: bets 400
okaaa: calls 400
*** TURN *** [As 3s 8c] [8d]
okaaa: checks
dosaa7: checks
*** RIVER *** [As 3s 8c 8d] [4h]
okaaa: bets 2000
dosaa7: calls 2000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
okaaa: shows [Ah Js] (two pair, Aces and Eights)
dosaa7: mucks hand
okaaa collected 7200 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7200 | Rake 0
Board [As 3s 8c 8d 4h]
Seat 1: djtiagomag (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: JuanBC folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: batton76 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: TunguiAK1422 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: andru13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: tibirun26 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: dosaa7 (button) mucked [Ac 6s]
Seat 9: okaaa (small blind) showed [Ah Js] and won (7200) with two pair, Aces and Eights

What more do you need to know...other than playing A rag can get you in trouble...

i agree with snk!! ace rag will get u in trouble every time!! and when he kept calling u should have known u were behind!! he just slow played u!

i would of either shoved or folded pre flop depending on what the players in the blinds where like. definitely wouldn't of min raised. not much you could of done about been out kicked though. i tend to stay away from raggy aces unless i'm less than 15BB.

As played, the hand is fine up to the river. You have a large stack, putting pressure on the smaller stacks, you need to raise these hands preflop in position. The problem with the river is this, you don't beat anything other than a bluff. He calls your flop bet with either a spade flush draw or an A or 8. On that board, you lose to any 8 and most of his aces, and at the 25cent buy in level, the average player cant bluff a missed spade draw. He is betting half his remaining stack on the river meaning you are most certainly beat.

The other responses thus far arent taking into consideration stack sizes and position. You definitely are right to raise this hands preflop on the button. But you have to consider where you are on each street.

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Originally Posted by dosaa7

PokerStars Hand #100533210183: Tournament #750220355, $0.25+$0.00 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2013/06/24 23:42:49 ET
Table '750220355 46' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: djtiagomag (8382 in chips)
Seat 2: JuanBC (3505 in chips)
Seat 3: batton76 (42155 in chips)
Seat 5: TunguiAK1422 (11877 in chips)
Seat 6: andru13 (6642 in chips)
Seat 7: tibirun26 (1730 in chips)
Seat 8: dosaa7 (14885 in chips)
Seat 9: okaaa (5270 in chips)
djtiagomag: posts the ante 50
JuanBC: posts the ante 50
batton76: posts the ante 50
TunguiAK1422: posts the ante 50
andru13: posts the ante 50
tibirun26: posts the ante 50
dosaa7: posts the ante 50
okaaa: posts the ante 50
okaaa: posts small blind 200
djtiagomag: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dosaa7 [Ac 6s]
JuanBC: folds
batton76: folds
TunguiAK1422: folds
andru13: folds
tibirun26: folds
dosaa7: raises 400 to 800
okaaa: calls 600
djtiagomag: folds
*** FLOP *** [As 3s 8c]
okaaa: checks
dosaa7: bets 400
okaaa: calls 400
*** TURN *** [As 3s 8c] [8d]
okaaa: checks
dosaa7: checks
*** RIVER *** [As 3s 8c 8d] [4h]
okaaa: bets 2000
dosaa7: calls 2000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
okaaa: shows [Ah Js] (two pair, Aces and Eights)
dosaa7: mucks hand
okaaa collected 7200 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7200 | Rake 0
Board [As 3s 8c 8d 4h]
Seat 1: djtiagomag (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: JuanBC folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: batton76 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: TunguiAK1422 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: andru13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: tibirun26 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: dosaa7 (button) mucked [Ac 6s]
Seat 9: okaaa (small blind) showed [Ah Js] and won (7200) with two pair, Aces and Eights

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Pretty standard up until the river. I really like a check back by you, and it is not being results oriented. Villain knows you are going to keep repping the Ace if you are bluffing, plus you might value own yourself as well. Furthermore, an 8 is definitely part of his flop calling range. What type of value do you think you are getting by betting 3 streets? What worse hands are calling? I know it is the micros but still; on the river he has a hand that beats you 95% of the time when he checks it to you. You should have checked back the turn, and called a river bet. You still would have lost, but you would have lost less, and you catch some silly bluffs.
*** I see he lead into you otr. As played, I fold. If you check back the turn which would have done, I would call the river. ***

Don't bet 1/5 pot otf. It accomplishes nothing other than opening yourself up to being bluffed all the time.

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Originally Posted by oVITOo

Don't bet 1/5 pot otf. It accomplishes nothing other than opening yourself up to being bluffed all the time.

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And that is a bad thing?

Since this is at jokerstars, the only way to play and win is to be super tight. That sight is too famous for idiot players from *cough* Russia *cough*...."Book" play just doesn't work online at all...

On the river cheсk-call and if u will se some pocket hand make note that this guy - fish

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Originally Posted by sickread23

And that is a bad thing?

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Yes, very. Maybe i should've emphasized "ALL THE TIME" Try hero calling all day at micros. Lmk how that works out.

With blinds and antes so big, you aren't really trying to see boards out like that. If you were deeper, this hand may have gone better, but just betting into the guy the called you preflop already put a pot out there worth over half his remaining stack. There aren't even 2 streets of betting left at that point. If he is the just calling type (he should never be seeing a flop there with that stack size with what he has. If he misses he is one hell of a mess.), I'd have just folded pre or shove to steal the blinds if you have tightish players behind you.

Random thing to keep in mind, A6o isn't even in the top 30% of hands. A5o and A4o are actually better hands even because of straight potential. So unless you're willing to open raise like 1/3 off all hands there (J9s, Q10o, 22, etc.), you should not be raising A6o as far as playing it as a POST FLOP hand.

Think about what you're trying to accomplish and what worse he'd be playing with his short stack as well.

Fold it pre?:confused: