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We need to figure out what we want to do for our PO Tasks VIP upgrade.
Basically, if these are abused, you lose your access...
So.. my initial thought is, if you get a chargeback, you are out
You have to apply for access (Can only apply if you have earned XX amount or been on the site XX period of time)
Any thoughts, Ideas?
Tommy can weigh in
firstly what happened to the old vip access did it just disappear when u redid the offerwalls?
secondly will it be paid offers only?
thirdly how will it be distributed between countries or is that entirely dependant on tommy
1) We took it down because people like court were abusing it badlyQuote:
Originally Posted by azreal1
2) Any offer thats easily converting \ easily abused (As deemed by the survey sites where Tommy gets the offers from)
3) Up to Tommy
cool ill look every 6 months or so then
play 7 fr's a week , been a member for a year and agree with Pooffy all the time,,,
def if you incur a chargeback you need to lose access. and i think everyone needs to request access also. my thoughts on the access though are there needs to be more than my opinion on giving someone access. 3 votes and youre in or something. mods zab and myself being the only votes that count.
if thats the case i think there needs to be a system that allows a member to SEE what the vip offers are BEFORE they ask for/gain access to them, maybe if you try clicking on an offer without access it directs you to a page where you can then request access, i dont see why i should waste my time asking for something that i may never use, at least if i can see whats on offer i can make an informed choice as to whether or not its actually worth it
wtf u talkin about....voting into wat ? explain further slick....im not hip on the vip
you are asking for access to all offers in the vip section. doesnt matter if you ever use it or not. its to help you, so request it or dont its up to you. no loss to usQuote:
Originally Posted by azreal1
doesnt work like that, the offers in the vip section are only different to the normal offers in their value, they still work the same in that they are subject to region, meaning that as always the us will be the richest for offersQuote:
Originally Posted by tommy62278
what this also means is that most of the offers will be paid offers which i do at a very bare minimal rate, add to that that it will be you adding the offers means the amount of viable uk vip offers will be next to none existent
all im asking is the ability to see what the offers are before i request access to something i may/may not use
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Originally Posted by tommy62278
I don't know about "no loss" to you but for us? I mean there is that ten seconds it would take to make the request for entry......
(the above is not to be taken seriously)
why is requesting access to a specific section a problem for you? i dont understand your negativity here. once you have been approved you are free to check the section daily then. it does not hurt you in any way. dont know why you need to see whats available before asking to do an offer in a section.Quote:
Originally Posted by azreal1
whether its decided you need to have access prior to seeing offers or not, i dont think it matters. long as a person cannot do offers without having access.
i think that might answer the question though. you shouldnt be able to access the vip section without permission
I think you will get more people interested in the VIP offers if people can see the offers first. Maybe instead of giving people unlimited access, everyone can see the offers but they have to request permission to apply for each individual offer.
if we trust you not to be scamming 1 offer you should have access to all offers. my whole problem is i dont want ppl seeing a high paying offer, then trying to figure out how to scam usQuote:
Originally Posted by rghy2
Will the application process simply be saying "hey tommy i want to apply for access"? If so i dont see why it would be necessary to see the offers before hand. but if it is a lengthy application with multiple steps, then I would want to see what I was applying for first.
(ignore this, I didnt read the posts above mine)
there should be vip crowdflower tasks added...unless it is beyond your control what tasks show up for your members
There are always going to be people that mess things up for everyone bu abusing the site. There has to be a better way to control what people have access to. I know I have been a member for awhile but I don't play a lot like I use to so I don't see a lot of things that are available.
its rare this happens but you and i are, for once on the same page, if i can see whats available to me before i request access im more likely to bother, as it stands and judging by past experience with "vip" offers im willing to bet its just a gigantic waste of time that wont help or hinder me in any way shape or formQuote:
Originally Posted by rghy2
the intent of this thread was for you guys to help us out. bounce some ideas around. not to stick on 1 subject.
3 votes could get sticky..Quote:
Originally Posted by tommy62278
I would say if you, me or Poof allows them access they are good (Not sure the Mods, some mods haven't been here as long as others)
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Originally Posted by rghy2
Noted.. I'll see if that's possible
at least someones seeing senseQuote:
Originally Posted by Zab
as another note the decision needs to be made on a stats/likelyhood of ripping off the site basis only (so going off the background check etc) with clear implimentations for abusing the power to deny access on a "i don't like him/her" basis
this i agree with. its all gonna be based on whether or not a person has a past history of abusing offers and such. keep in mind we want people doing the offers. as many ppl as possible. if offers are being completed obv the site makes money. so the more the merrier. just gotta be completed legallyQuote:
Originally Posted by azreal1
Heres my idea. Any members can buy whats known as a vip membership. lets say you pay 2500 points for it per month. What you get ? You get a cool symbol thing next to your name in the chatbox that says you're a vip member or a different colored screen name. not sure if the coders can do this.
Then you automatically get access to this vip section with the understanding that the offers in this section aren't guaranteed but have a higher percentage converting rate.
It will be much harder to gain access to these than before.. Much harderQuote:
Originally Posted by tommy62278
i dont think this is possible. scammers would go crazy then. all of them buy a vip membership and scam 100k in points for their 2500 membershipQuote:
Originally Posted by rs3rooster
Yup.. pay 2500 pts to get access to 200,000 ptsQuote:
Originally Posted by tommy62278
are you on crack...like seriously why would i pay for a service that isnt a certain...as tommy just said they want as many people as possible doing the offers by asking members to pay you are going to reduce the number of people doing it, not to mention the only ones then that are going to be able to do the offers are those that arguably dont need the points in the first place....epic idea really well done kudos :|Quote:
Originally Posted by rs3rooster
Is there a VIP section now, or was this something from the past that ya'll are trying to re-integrate into PO?
We used to have it, it was abused.. It needs an overhaul, which is what we're working on now :)Quote:
Originally Posted by NuGHuFFeR
you are paying for vip status and not the offers. the offers are just a bonus. you can also put a limit on how many offers can be converted or how many offers show up so they have a cap of how many points can be made per day and not go crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by azreal1
regardless of who gains access, you will only hurt yourself by abusing an offer. zab can see every offer completed. he can see who the user was who completed the offer, and what time it was completed, and for how many points the user got. also when theres a chargeback it is shown. which user did the offer and how many points they got for it.
so when you do an offer on any wall keep this in mind. some of you have already gotten points reversed. you think it was just a shot in the dark that he knew whom to take the points from?
you have this wrong...all wrong...its a good job that having good ideas isnt part of being a mod :|Quote:
Originally Posted by rs3rooster
VIP Status should be earned on merit - not payment.
Have we defined the minimum requirements before the triumvirate of Zab Poof and Tom even consider approving the candidate? It should involve Tenure, fraud and pts earned.
points earned should not come into play. scammers are gonna be among the top ppl of points earnedQuote:
Originally Posted by rivdee
Fair enough. The other two should definitely come into play.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommy62278
I gotta agree with this. They will "earn" them easily to get in.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommy62278
Or even understanding what the conversation is about, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by azreal1
And yes, we can agree on some things.
I don't believe points earned should come into play. I've only been here 6 months and made over 200K in points. Granted mine are made legit, but the rest as far as tenure and fraud concerns definitely needs to be part of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommy62278