VIP Upgrade ideas...

couple things

1. regarding visibility = every forum I've ever seen that has VIP section has perks hidden, that seems to be part of the allure (side note a lot of people wanting to be mod has the same reasons, hidden forums with juicy gossip lol). I see no reason for needing to be aware of offers, UNLESS primary access is by payment (so buyers remorse, refunds etc isn't an issue. However, donations are different then buying access so if donations are a need, visibility still isn't a need as donations are voluntary support not a purchase)

2 Speaking of a hidden forum, thats a great place for VIPs to share their ideas and speak in a private place from regular members, a must imo

3. Unique games (types, buyins, tournaments) in the poker client, skinned diff for VIPs

4. Unique PO VIP freerolls on poker rooms, with different games and higher $ amounts

5. obv bigger and unique point gaining options

6. ways to interact in unique ways with members (special VIP bounties for members, etc) make it exciting for the rest of members, something to try to obtain.

I may think of other things but there's a start

Working on a way to not allow access if the system detects a proxy server.

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Originally Posted by s810car

couple things

1. regarding visibility = every forum I've ever seen that has VIP section has perks hidden, that seems to be part of the allure (side note a lot of people wanting to be mod has the same reasons, hidden forums with juicy gossip lol). I see no reason for needing to be aware of offers, UNLESS primary access is by payment (so buyers remorse, refunds etc isn't an issue. However, donations are different then buying access so if donations are a need, visibility still isn't a need as donations are voluntary support not a purchase)

2 Speaking of a hidden forum, thats a great place for VIPs to share their ideas and speak in a private place from regular members, a must imo

3. Unique games (types, buyins, tournaments) in the poker client, skinned diff for VIPs

4. Unique PO VIP freerolls on poker rooms, with different games and higher $ amounts

5. obv bigger and unique point gaining options

6. ways to interact in unique ways with members (special VIP bounties for members, etc) make it exciting for the rest of members, something to try to obtain.

I may think of other things but there's a start

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another one that doesnt quite get the concept of what this "vip" section will be

the one consolation is that if/when we get it all installed you shouldnt be a part of it for a while

s810car, this isn't about being a VIP member, this about VIP tasks that are easy to abuse.


VIP is probably the wrong term here.. It's probably more like "Verified Member Tasks"

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Originally Posted by Zab

s810car, this isn't about being a VIP member, this about VIP tasks that are easy to abuse.


VIP is probably the wrong term here.. It's probably more like "Verified Member Tasks"

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the "po og" tasks lololol

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Originally Posted by azreal1

another one that doesnt quite get the concept of what this "vip" section will be

the one consolation is that if/when we get it all installed you shouldnt be a part of it for a while

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And another nonsensical attempt to troll, apparently your lack of being able to gratify your ego against this "newb" here is making your attacks weaker and weaker. Try learning how to read people and maybe you'll get it

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Originally Posted by Zab

s810car, this isn't about being a VIP member, this about VIP tasks that are easy to abuse.


VIP is probably the wrong term here.. It's probably more like "Verified Member Tasks"

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See Az, at least if you aren't trying to troll and take a sec, you could understand the confusion I had, as Zab corrected me. Makes more sense now, and obviously being a 'new' member, I think this mistake could happen in the future with others, and I would recommend going to a term that can't be confused as easy, Verified Members works, but if you want to keep the VIP feel, maybe Preferred Member Tasks or PO Pro Tasks for examples.

As far as the proxy detection I'd start somewhere around here asp.net - How to tell if a Request is coming from a Proxy? - Stack Overflow

Most likely a .htaccess coding, but isn't 100%, gl with that, that's a hard thing to prevent unfort

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Originally Posted by s810car

And another nonsensical attempt to troll, apparently your lack of being able to gratify your ego against this "newb" here is making your attacks weaker and weaker. Try learning how to read people and maybe you'll get it



See Az, at least if you aren't trying to troll and take a sec, you could understand the confusion I had, as Zab corrected me. Makes more sense now, and obviously being a 'new' member, I think this mistake could happen in the future with others, and I would recommend going to a term that can't be confused as easy, Verified Members works, but if you want to keep the VIP feel, maybe Preferred Member Tasks or PO Pro Tasks for examples.

As far as the proxy detection I'd start somewhere around here asp.net - How to tell if a Request is coming from a Proxy? - Stack Overflow

Most likely a .htaccess coding, but isn't 100%, gl with that, that's a hard thing to prevent unfort

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Ok, I'm definitely not an Az fan, but this time around he's just calling it like he sees it. This isn't trolling, this is just pointing out that you clearly didn't know what the conversation is about.

And frankly, this doesn't matter if new members would be confused, because they shouldn't be allowed in. That's the whole point of this thread. How do we limit access to those members who won't abuse the system?? The offers themselves will make plenty of money for Zab as long as he isn't getting constant chargebacks.

Anyways, just a further explanation of why I feel we should be able to see the tasks before we are VIP members. I personally don't do many offers, it's just not worth the hassle. I would take advantage of a VIP offer if there was one that I was really interested in what it was offering. I wouldn't do it for the points, that would just be a nice bonus. Since I don't do many offers, I won't bother applying for VIP access because in general I don't plan on using it.

k last response and I'm /thread as I apparently don't share this sentiment

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Originally Posted by rghy2

Ok, I'm definitely not an Az fan, but this time around he's just calling it like he sees it. This isn't trolling, this is just pointing out that you clearly didn't know what the conversation is about.

And frankly, this doesn't matter if new members would be confused, because they shouldn't be allowed in. That's the whole point of this thread. How do we limit access to those members who won't abuse the system?? The offers themselves will make plenty of money for Zab as long as he isn't getting constant chargebacks.

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This thought process here is what probably affected it getting shut the first time. If you really think it should be an elitist thing that only privileged members even hope to grace the glorious 'VIP' status, then you're not helping it anymore then it was before. the division of 'VIP' available tasks vs regular tasks will cause an ego divide, which I've already seen in chat where members puff out their chests at the great offers they were able to do, while the other 'peasants' were struggling with basic tasks. Look up caste societies, that's what you're advocating, in the long term this only hurts Zab as the regular member will get jealousy and possibly leave the site over this attitude of "you're not worthy to get to do this". The scammers were just the straw(man) that broke the camels back. Maybe think in this way to help, instead of "How do we limit access to those members who won't abuse the system" maybe "How do we allow good access to those members who won't abuse the system"? Positive spin works wonders

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Originally Posted by rghy2

Anyways, just a further explanation of why I feel we should be able to see the tasks before we are VIP members. I personally don't do many offers, it's just not worth the hassle. I would take advantage of a VIP offer if there was one that I was really interested in what it was offering. I wouldn't do it for the points, that would just be a nice bonus. Since I don't do many offers, I won't bother applying for VIP access because in general I don't plan on using it.

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^ case in point, veterans may or may not have interest, and with the attitude of it, regular members won't get ANY interest, leaves only peeps interested as scammers. SMH

And with that said, I am /thread
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First of all, these points could probably made in fewer than 10,000 words.

Secondly, tenure is most definitely a factor - an established track record of honesty. This is a reward system - you don't get a reward just for being here a week.

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Originally Posted by rivdee

First of all, these points could probably made in fewer than 10,000 words.

Secondly, tenure is most definitely a factor - an established track record of honesty. This is a reward system - you don't get a reward just for being here a week.

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I've been weak here for a year.