Court's actions in the Poker Client

I believe mrnobigdeal is fraudulently buying points and dumping them to court (Same person most likely)

Take a look at the logs and tell me.. I've only looked at a few hands, so tell me what you see.



Hand #843951-10 - 2012-10-26 12:16:48
Game: NL Hold'em (4000 - 20000) - Blinds 100/200
Site: Pokerowned.com
Table: Nosebleed 100/200
Seat 2: mrnobigdeal (6732)
Seat 3: court (3156)
Seat 6: ssl0wplayy (6146)
court has the dealer button
ssl0wplayy posts small blind 100
mrnobigdeal posts big blind 200
** Hole Cards **
court raises to 3156 (All-in)
ssl0wplayy folds
mrnobigdeal calls 2956
** Flop ** [Ts Qs 3h]
** Turn ** [5d]
** River ** [4c]
** Pot Show Down ** [Ts Qs 3h 5d 4c]
mrnobigdeal shows [7d 8c] (High Card Queen +T875)
court shows [Qd Qc] (Three of a Kind, Queens +T5)
court wins Pot (6404) with Three of a Kind
Rake (8)
** Deck ** [4d 7d Qd Jc 8c Qc Ts Qs 3h 5d 4c]


Hand #843956-13 - 2012-10-26 12:18:22
Game: NL Hold'em (4000 - 20000) - Blinds 100/200
Site: Pokerowned.com
Table: Nosebleed 100/200
Seat 2: mrnobigdeal (3676)
Seat 3: court (12342)
Seat 6: ssl0wplayy (0) - sitting out
court has the dealer button
court posts small blind 100
mrnobigdeal posts big blind 200
** Hole Cards **
court: "shit happens"
court raises to 12342 (All-in)
mrnobigdeal calls 3476 (All-in)
court refunded 8666
** Flop ** [8d 2c 7c]
** Turn ** [7d]
** River ** [2s]
** Pot Show Down ** [8d 2c 7c 7d 2s]
mrnobigdeal shows [Ks Qs] (Two Pair, Sevens and Deuces +K)
court shows [Kd Kc] (Two Pair, Kings and Sevens +8)
court wins Pot (7344) with Two Pair
Rake (8)
** Deck ** [Ks Kd Qs Kc 8d 2c 7c 7d 2s]



Hand #843945-6 - 2012-10-26 12:15:14
Game: NL Hold'em (4000 - 20000) - Blinds 100/200
Site: Pokerowned.com
Table: Nosebleed 100/200
Seat 2: mrnobigdeal (3595)
Seat 3: court (5859)
Seat 6: ssl0wplayy (6596)
mrnobigdeal has the dealer button
court posts small blind 100
ssl0wplayy posts big blind 200
** Hole Cards **
mrnobigdeal raises to 600
court raises to 5859 (All-in)
ssl0wplayy folds
mrnobigdeal calls 2995 (All-in)
court refunded 2264
** Flop ** [5d Js Jh]
** Turn ** [8d]
** River ** [3h]
** Pot Show Down ** [5d Js Jh 8d 3h]
mrnobigdeal shows [9d 9h] (Two Pair, Jacks and Nines +8)
court shows [Ad Kc] (a Pair of Jacks +AK8)
mrnobigdeal wins Pot (7382) with Two Pair
Rake (8)
court: "nh"
** Deck ** [Ad Jd 9d Kc Ks 9h 5d Js Jh 8d 3h]



Hand #843951-10 - 2012-10-26 12:16:48
Game: NL Hold'em (4000 - 20000) - Blinds 100/200
Site: Pokerowned.com
Table: Nosebleed 100/200
Seat 2: mrnobigdeal (6732)
Seat 3: court (3156)
Seat 6: ssl0wplayy (6146)
court has the dealer button
ssl0wplayy posts small blind 100
mrnobigdeal posts big blind 200
** Hole Cards **
court raises to 3156 (All-in)
ssl0wplayy folds
mrnobigdeal calls 2956
** Flop ** [Ts Qs 3h]
** Turn ** [5d]
** River ** [4c]
** Pot Show Down ** [Ts Qs 3h 5d 4c]
mrnobigdeal shows [7d 8c] (High Card Queen +T875)
court shows [Qd Qc] (Three of a Kind, Queens +T5)
court wins Pot (6404) with Three of a Kind
Rake (8)
** Deck ** [4d 7d Qd Jc 8c Qc Ts Qs 3h 5d 4c]

These are always all in pre flop.. From what I can see, they just go all in until mrbig loses..

He buys points, rinse and repeat

so if he was buying points and giving them to court...which obv chip dumping could be avoided by using market place.....not sre what he would get out of that

i have been watching him in the past 2 days and he won em all fairly mrnobigdeal just came on in the last little few hours and joined the game

this could cost me my head but i vote for court being ok

Ok but why? How do they bennefit from it?

if they are all in preflop which half the time thats how it is all the time....but where is mrbig buying the points and again why would he dump them to him? makes no sense

This is what I want to know from the public. I personally believe mrnobigdeal is fraudulently buying the points.

The question is, is he dumping them to court or has he been losing them to everyone else

i am not sure if court is a multi accounter, but i am sure that court won alot of his points legit. i watched him smoke gimmeabrew for 70k at the same time he was up 30k on 25/50 plo. ive also seen him over the last 2 days beating thecol babyface myself for a few k wcandt and a few from colee.

last week he was bugging me for 1k all day. i saw he converted an offer or 2 and hes a degen and went str8 to client with the points. like i said he may have multiple accounts, of that i do not know, but he did win over 100k legitimately that i saw.

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Originally Posted by CUSTOMTABLES

if they are all in preflop which half the time thats how it is all the time....but where is mrbig buying the points and again why would he dump them to him? makes no sense

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He's buying them from trial pay, so the only one getting screwed here would be me

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Originally Posted by Zab

These are always all in pre flop.. From what I can see, they just go all in until mrbig loses..

He buys points, rinse and repeat

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im not voting for anyone here HERE dont wanna get myself into trouble you guys do this

sorry to much writing for me

I shouldn't say court is on trial here, more mrnobigdeal, but its just odd the preflop play

i have never won shit from mrbig...but again how is mrbig buying the points? u say its fraudelant...stolen cc? im not getting it....

idk but he just took 6 k f rom me in client soooo if he is chttn leme get that back cool?? LOL

so he is shoving all in 3 or 4 hands ina row..maybe chip dumping..but what about the hands he won the last 2 or 3 days against us..just saying..well if you freeze his pts and keep them.,i want my 20k back that i lost to him which is fair..lmk..

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Originally Posted by TKD55

i have been watching him in the past 2 days and he won em all fairly mrnobigdeal just came on in the last little few hours and joined the game

this could cost me my head but i vote for court being ok

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i agree mt notnice. we have both been in client at same time watching

A buys from B fraudulently, dumping to C in client. When B goes to recover from A, no funds can be reversed. C "looks" innocent to all, just a really "lucky" player. C opens new account under D, wash, rinse, repeat.

i dont think mrnobigdeal is dumping to court though. just trying to shove n pray. i play the idiot in pokerowned freerolls and he plays just as bad in them

wtf everyone is greedy i won them fair in client

yeah i vote for him being ok and the biggest donk in client atm..but he won them fair and square..

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Originally Posted by tommy62278

i am not sure if court is a multi accounter, but i am sure that court won alot of his points legit. i watched him smoke gimmeabrew for 70k at the same time he was up 30k on 25/50 plo. ive also seen him over the last 2 days beating thecol babyface myself for a few k wcandt and a few from colee.

last week he was bugging me for 1k all day. i saw he converted an offer or 2 and hes a degen and went str8 to client with the points. like i said he may have multiple accounts, of that i do not know, but he did win over 100k legitimately that i saw.

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I AGREE WITH THIS 100% been there myself also

Why would it matter if it was the same guy, aside from the multi-accounting, he is still buying the points right? I understand the issue if it's two people using dumping as a way to avoid the 1% fee for using marketplace. Could someone explain?

well....i know he is always up and down with points....i dont know about the multi accounts but i have lost points to him but not recently....but what im still not getting if whoever it is buyin the points they are using their cc...and you are getting paid on that regardless...what i dont see is why would mrbig buy points and then dump them to court.....thats what im not understandin...unless ur thinking that mrbig is court and...he is having 2 accounts in there dumping them to the other account...which still makes no sense when h could just buy them on the court name

It's a tough call ZAB...

1) A series of curious hands played is cause for concern but does not offer absolute proof.

2) The fact that a player wins a lot outside of the baove against verified oplayers does not mean he is not guilty. I don't have to take the wallet of everyone I bump in to to be guilty of taking the wallet I did steal.

I dunno'

Ok, what I'll do is release the points back but not allow mrnobigdeal to purchase anymore points until he passes the new fraud detection upgrade I am working on.

It still just looks very fishy.

Give'em to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Zab

Ok, what I'll do is release the points back but not allow mrnobigdeal to purchase anymore points until he passes the new fraud detection upgrade I am working on.

It still just looks very fishy.

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i have been there myself and watched almost all the play myslef and i can guarentee that mrnobigdeal just plays shiti and court calls cause he has the points 2


he also played gimme and steor and if what u said would be the case steor gimme tommy would all be in same thing and thats impossible so i put my vote on court to be 100''% ok

hes been crushing it in the client............................................ ....

i think court won them legit, not sayin he played WELL an won them.. but won them jus the same.. :) ive seen him clean up and go broke in client in the same day

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i vote for him being the biggest donk in client atm

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This sounds accurate at least. As for chip dumping, feasible with all the scamming that has been going on here lately.

ALSO court has played over 500 hands in last 2 days i would say 3 or 4 in a row is absolutly nothing special for both 2 be allin

Ok closing this thread